On this episode of Unholy Union, Lindz and Russ dive deep into the world of tin foil hat conspiracy theories, exploring the belief of a flat Earth and the skepticism surrounding it. They also discuss a chaotic situation involving a Montgomery, Alabama...
On this episode of Unholy Union, Lindz and Russ dive deep into the world of tin foil hat conspiracy theories, exploring the belief of a flat Earth and the skepticism surrounding it. They also discuss a chaotic situation involving a Montgomery, Alabama city worker being attacked, the benefits of third person perspective in stressful situations, and even share some personal anecdotes about office dynamics. Tune in for a lighthearted and entertaining episode! And stay tuned to uncover the mystery behind "illeism" - a term that will surely pique your curiosity.
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Timestamps:
(00:03:06) AOH 1996 cancer pill
(00:09:06) Montgomery brawl
(00:18:00) Thinking of oneself in the 3rd person
(00:35:08) Nudist cruise ship experience
(00:38:09) Sharing a small office space
(00:41:31) Challenges of sharing a workspace with a spouse
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03:06 - AOH 1996 cancer pill
09:06 - Montgomery brawl
18:00 - Thinking of oneself in the 3rd person
35:08 - Nudist cruise ship experience
38:09 - Sharing a small office space
41:31 - Challenges of sharing a workspace with a spouse
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Lindz:We're back.
Russ:Yeah.
Lindz:We took a little break, just 1 week. We skipped a week. We needed a a little bit of a mental health break, I think. Yeah. It was the last week of summer before kiddo went to back to school. We got super busy
Russ:and Lost track of the days. And the weekend, which is well, the
Does it? Yeah. I don't we were on such a good role.
Yeah. I I don't remember how many weeks we actually did Like, 20? Straight. Yeah. That's a lot. Mhmm. But now we can't say that. We it's like we lost our challenge coin from Alcoholics Anonymous.
Oh. We recorded for 20 weeks. Podcast anonymous. Yeah. Now we gotta give it back. Now we gotta start from day 1. Oh, whatever.
Lindz:Now we've done a lot of work.
But one of the distractions
Russ:from the past week or so has been the new waffle game. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like it much better than Wordle.
Really? Yeah. Better than Wordle. Yeah. Because this one, it's it takes a little bit longer than a Wordle because True. It is I'm looking at the screen right now. What? Six words?
Yeah. And it's in kind of a a crossword puzzle shape. Mhmm.
In a waffle shape. In a waffle shape. Oh, wow. I didn't even realize
Lindz:that.
Russ:You're cute. Is that why it's called that? You're cute. Oh my god. But it's in a waffle shape,
and
Lindz:it's just I don't know. It's more fun to me. I think it is more challenging because you're not just trying to solve for one word. Yeah.
It's 6, like you said.
Russ:It's 6 words. They're all connected
Mhmm. In a way. Overlap. Yeah. They're all overlapped just like a crossword puzzle, but you're trying to guess the word. You're not getting any clues other than they give you a few letters in there that are actually
Lindz:in the right place. And then it has the coloration of Wordle where it's like
white is
Russ:it's not here, and yellow is it's in the word, and green is right spot. Yep. So it's similar. I like it. Yeah. And there's 3 different games that you can play. 1, you can only play if you're a Prime member, but
2 games for everyone. There's a deluxe waffle
and
Lindz:just waffle. Waffle?
Russ:That's fun. You wanna get into some heavy shit? Yeah. It's pretty much standard operating procedure at this point, isn't it? There's no, there's no week without heavy shit. Yeah. But this is actually
Lindz:kind of happy in a way Oh. I guess.
There is a cancer pill now. What? It's called AOH
1996.
It is a cancer pill, and it is effective against 70 types of cancers.
However, it has not entered in human trials yet.
Russ:It's it's promising though, obviously, because it's a news story. Right? Absolutely. I did get this off TikTok.
Lindz:So it could be fake, could be a conspiracy,
Russ:but if they're China sending messages to us.
Lindz:If this is real, I don't want any big pharma to bury it. So we're putting it on this podcast right now that it exists and it's out there and they cannot buy it and they cannot bury it. Do you think that would be possible for them to bury it? I do. Because that will
It happens all the time. It will remove a lot of money out of their pocket. It happens all the time. If someone comes up with a new medicine or a new technology
and it'll somehow
overlap or take over some of or part of the revenue and business for an existing big pharma Mhmm. Medicine or technology. Oh, yeah. They will buy it. They will squash it. What about hospitals and stuff? They're
Russ:all if you have cancer, you don't have to go to these places to get chemo or if you just take a pill at home. But let me be clear. This happens in
Lindz:all aspects of business. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, yes. Because
there are
companies who are building
the next way to travel. Right? Did
Russ:I did did I tell you? Sorry. Go ahead.
Lindz:The next way to travel, the flying taxi. Right?
And what companies are doing are what larger companies are doing is they're buying these smaller companies
and their technology
Russ:and essentially either absorbing it into their own project or squashing it. Right? If you think about it, the big airline companies, do they want flying taxis that can take you, I don't know, a couple 100 miles? Right. That'll remove your local airports.
Mhmm. And it could really put a hurting on them, especially if they start getting longer range. Those flying taxis, they're, like, battery operated.
They park on a top of a building. They charge up via solar. Everybody's gonna do that. Right. And it's and it I don't believe it has a pilot.
No. Most well, some it depends on what technology you're getting. I think the goal is autonomous flight, and it's a little bit easier to do autonomous flying than it is to do autonomous driving because there's a lot less stuff in the air, I guess you could say. Mhmm. But one example of
tech
being squashed
is
I believe there was a guy,
I don't know, 10 years ago, he had invented
a thing that you could retrofit to your existing car
and I think you could add water to it, and it would increase your gas mileage by 20 times. Like, your regular car would go, like, 5,000 miles a gallon or some crazy shit. Right. I think he got murdered.
I'm serious. We have our 10 hats on right now. Well, I'm I mean but think about it. That's a huge business.
I'm not saying it's real. I'm not saying he got
killed
by whatever
company related to gas,
but
think about that. Mhmm. That's a game changing technology. If it's one guy making it, just imagine if you put
1,000,000,000 of dollars of resources into it. You probably wouldn't you wouldn't have to use gas anymore. Right. That's why I believe all this climate change stuff
is being pushed
as
a control thing more than it is an actual we need to help the environment. Because there's tech out there that is
Lindz:trying to be developed. Right. But it's why isn't it out? Yep. Because it constantly gets squashed. But Exactly. Back to my point of AOH
1996,
the cancer pill.
You heard it here. It exists. Yeah.
Russ:And if,
I if we don't exist, then it's because we spoke up.
Our tinfoil hats today. Man. I've got 2 factor authentication on our podcast host, so this episode can't go down unless they hack me and shit.
So if it goes down, something went down. Yeah. I gotta figure out how to do a dead man's switch or something somewhere.
Lindz:Oh. Well, the next big thing from the past week or so,
the Montgomery brawl.
So every news article that is out there right now about this big fight that happened in Montgomery, Alabama
is basically stating that it started
because
one of the dock workers was trying to move a pontoon because it was
docked
illegally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was in a spot that was meant for the city riverboat. So he was trying to move the boat. Yeah. Get it out of the way. He was doing his job. He's a dock worker. That's what he's supposed to do. Right.
Russ:Well, a fight ensued. Yes. The person that owned the boat.
Got mad. Got mad that he was moving his boat. And hit him. Hey. You mean, motherfucker. You just park your shit right then. He also just assaulted a city official. Yeah. I know. I
don't I don't understand.
People are very entitled nowadays,
and it bugs the shit out of me. Look, man. That dock is not yours. Right. So don't park it like a dick. Exactly. Park it in a way that is
you're using the dock.
Park
it proper
Mhmm. And be polite to other people. Yep.
Lindz:There was drinking involved obviously as well. So things got out of hand.
The
owners of the boat and those who were patrons of this
boat ended up essentially jumping this dock worker. Yeah. That pissed me that that shit pisses me off. I agree.
And then it escalates even further where other pedestrians
Russ:at the dock and even some individuals from the riverboat jump into the water and swim over to the site. Funny though. I was like, damn, dude. That guy is crazy. He's gonna be tired of shit when he gets back on that dock though. He's not gonna be able to fight. He needs to be in the Olympics. No. He was ready to go. No. I know. I'm just saying. I was like, I I dare not even I would be tired. He was ready to go. But so the fight escalates, and it becomes
Lindz:a brawl of, I would say, what, 20?
Russ:It was a lot of people. Or 30 people.
Lindz:And
there's a contention point right now about it where
an individual who came off the riverboat
that's not even like directly related to the fight that was happening with the owners and the dock workers.
But individuals came off the riverboat and started fighting too.
An individual
grabbed
a white folding chair Yeah. And hit the lit hit a lady over the head, but was also hitting a bunch of other people over the head too.
People are upset about it. I don't know. My hope
think that it was, like, WWE
style and he's just fighting. Other people are mad that he hit hit the lady that was sitting on the ground.
But to me, and I want you to tell me whether or not you agree with this,
Russ:when you're in a fight It wasn't a fight at that point. It was a riot. Right.
It But anything goes. Yeah. Like, when you are defending your safety, anything goes. Well, that's the thing. The people that decided to go after the city worker, if you wanna get mad at him, then fight him man to man. The dude was ready to go. Yep. Like, the city worker was holding his own Yep. Against the one guy. But when you decide to
them mob assault him Mhmm. Now fuck that. Everybody should have jumped in and defended that guy because he was just doing his fucking job. That pisses me off because
you can really, really I mean, it's not at that point, it's no longer a fight. Right.
You're aiming in my opinion, you are aiming to
really hurt this guy. It's not a fight. It's not like
man to man fight. It is
you are bringing a knife
to a fist fight, essentially,
because you have 5 people versus that one guy. Obviously, you're gonna beat the shit out of them. Exactly. But I'm glad that all those people jumped in. Fuck that crap. Yep. There's no that's an that's like an honor thing.
Seriously, if you're gonna fight him, then fight him.
But tell your family and stuff, stay out of it. Yep. This is between me and the city worker.
And I obviously, I still would have been upset
because the city worker once again was just doing his job, and he shouldn't have to deal with
getting his irate. Yeah. People. Getting punched and stuff when he's just trying to do the right thing. But
at least then
it was man versus man and not
5 versus 1. Right. Because that caused the riot Yep. Is when you start jumping somebody
for just doing their job, other people are gonna be like, no. No. No. No. No. Yep. We're gonna go we're gonna go after it now. And it was what was really funny, though,
is the group of people that were patrons of that pontoon boat, they acted very tough Mhmm.
Up until
everybody started swarming them. Yep. And then they tried to run. They were, like, they were acting like they were gonna fight them, like, they were, like, posting up, pretending like they were gonna
squaring up to them. And then they start walking towards them. The, you know, the other group of people that was beaten up the people on that pontoon boat.
And then they just were like, no. I'm good.
Lindz:1 jumped in the water. Yeah. People were thrown in the water. Yep. Yeah. To me, when it comes to a fight like that, though, like,
whatever you wanna call it, a brawl, a riot, whatever it is, but when you are trying to protect yourself,
Russ:anything goes. Especially at that point. Like I said, it's not it's k it's pure, utter chaos. Yep. There's no tracking what's happening. Yep. That dude with the chair, he was probably swinging at everything. Mhmm. He might have even hit the people that that were on his side. Yep. He did. That's what I mean. He was
just getting after it. Yep.
Lindz:I think in those moments, you go into that
fight, flight, you know, that mentality.
Yeah. Your instincts kick in. You're not thinking clearly. So There's
Russ:30 people all around you, and they're
throwing hands at each other, beating the shit out of each other. You're just
going nuts. Mhmm. If you truly feel like you're threatened, but
I do have a feeling that some of the people were just in it to fucking punch people. I got it. I get it, but I'm just saying not everybody was in there to defend the guy at one point. It's like, okay. There's a lot of people. There was, like, 5 of them on the pontoon boat, and then all of a sudden, like, 30 people came. I was laughing my ass off. Fuck around. Find out. Oh, no. I know. But I'm just saying, that just causes chaos.
Mhmm. And then dudes swing chairs at everybody.
That honestly would probably be me. Like, I would grab the closest thing to me and start swinging it in that mentality, you know? I want everybody to look up the guy though that he got he was caught on camera. He was just smiling at the camera, and the dude was getting somebody was getting hit with a chair in the background. It was the greatest photo. It's probably the greatest photo taken of 2023.
I don't know if that's a good thing. It was so fucking funny. He's just chilling, like, smiling, got his arm up on a post or whatever. Like, he's a he's all comfortable. Mhmm.
Chaos. Just chaos. He's like This is fine. Yeah. There's some fucking city's burning behind him, and he's just smiling.
Oh my goodness. Well, another
Lindz:bomb dropped over the past few weeks. Aliens are real.
Russ:Yeah. Well,
who says?
Lindz:So at the
most recent congressional it was probably not most recent at all. Government. The past few weeks, there have been congressional hearings related to an individual who's considering himself a whistleblower
and stating that
he was not granted access to specific files when asked
to essentially
investigate whether or not extraterrestrial life is real. However, he did have access to some files,
and he was able to bring those to congress and essentially state,
Russ:aliens are real. If you ask Elon Musk,
he doesn't believe they're real. No. That's not what he said. It is. He said there's been no evidence.
Lindz:Elon Musk said either there's none
or there's
a universe. I know, but his opinion is there is none. Because currently, there is no evidence. Right. Right. But he would be led to believe
given evidence.
Russ:Everybody would if there was if I saw an alien walking up our door to sell us a car warranty,
Lindz:then I'm gonna believe in an alien. No. But you know what I mean? Like, they have all the videos and pictures and How come you from the air Force. Like Okay. Right. Exactly. But that's evidence you're not believing it. That's because it's not
Russ:I in my opinion, I have to see that myself because of the way everything can be doctored so easily. Look at deep fake stuff. Yep. You can make yourself look and sound like a celebrity
on a video.
Mhmm. So how hard is it to put a silver
Lindz:dot flying across the sky on your iPhone video? The fact that you just said that though, there is another
video news article going around stating
that some celebrities
that have gone away for a little bit and then came back, specifically Jamie Foxx
Yeah. And
Britney Spears
and
They think they're being deep fake. Simon Cowell. They're being deep fake or they're aliens?
Russ:Oh god.
Lindz:There's even an another layer to that if you believe in the cabal and all the devil worship team that they do. Yeah. But
if you look at these people from past to present
and do a side by side photo comparison, they look nothing like they did 5, 10 years ago. A lot of people age different.
Agreed.
But
where your eyes
Russ:are on your face doesn't typically change. The longitude, latitude on your face. You mean your eyes don't get closer together as you grow up? I don't think so. I'm just kidding.
Lindz:So they did that for Jamie, and they Jamie Foxx, and they put 2 side by side pictures, and his eyes are no longer in the same place as they were previously on his face.
Aliens are real is what they're saying. Yeah.
And now they're pointing out celebrities who don't look like themselves after they go away and come back. Do you think that
Russ:all this is because we're living in the matrix?
Lindz:This is a tinfoil hat episode. That's what we're gonna call it. Yeah. Tinfoil
Russ:episode.
Lindz:All the conspiracy
Russ:all day. Yeah. I think
there's a lot of proponents of the simulation theory though
that
things like this
are proof that we are living in
an alternate
reality that's not even it's created.
I don't know.
I don't believe none of that shit. I'm just trying to live, man. Uh-huh.
Lindz:Just I seriously, I feel like the more
I dive into things, the more headlines I read about all this crap, the more I'm just like, ah. Look at the flat earther people.
They believe the earth is flat. This was not the intention of this pot.
Russ:No. No. But the earth is flat
because supposedly you can only see if the earth was truly round in this in the,
whatever dimensions that they say
that you could only see. I can't remember what it is. 3 or 6 miles. Something. It was really short,
and
that was it. Like, you couldn't see further than that, but there people are taking photos of I think it was the Chicago skyline across one of the great lakes. And they're like, how do I see that when it is,
that is, like, 30 something miles away? How can I see that
if
I can I'm only supposed to be able to see 3 miles straight across?
Lindz:I guess, what would you be able to see if the world was flat? How far?
Russ:Forever? 3 oh, if the world was flat? Well, until you get a visual blockage.
Pyramids in Egypt? There's other things that are gonna block it like mountains and buildings and things like that.
Because it's flat. You're not gonna be able to see, well, I don't know, however big the world is all the way across, unless you got a fucking badass telescope,
and you drill a hole in all the mountains and stuff. But What? Yes. Tinfoil hat is very nice.
Well, with all of this crap,
Lindz:it's just
shit that's swirling around in the media that is
out there for us to digest and think about and be tinfoil hats on.
There's a new study
that says,
if you are in a moment of anxiety
and you are
trying to manage your feelings and trying to make the next best decision,
They've related this mainly to work, but Yeah. On a grander level, it could work in your personal life as well. It's called eelism.
You know what eelism is?
Is it about those weird looking slimy snakes that swim in the water, eels? No. Okay. I don't even know if I'm saying this right. I l l e I s m, eelism. I think that's
how you say
it. I don't know. But it's the idea of thinking of yourself in the 3rd person.
So lens needs to eat lunch.
That type of thought process. That sounds kinda schizophrenic. Little bit. But if you start using that thought process in stressful situations, essentially, you're removing yourself from it and thinking of yourself as a third person Oh. In the scenario.
So they said that this can lead to less stress,
and considering a problem using the third person helps you take a step back,
create some space from the emotions that may affect your judgment, and gain greater perspective.
So I think in some sense, it makes sense. In some sense, it makes sense.
In some ways, it makes sense
because you're removing yourself from it and you're trying to look at it at a Bigger picture. Exactly.
In certain
situations and scenarios,
Russ:I think we should try it. I don't know. I don't like the idea of thinking that I'm not me.
Lindz:Well,
you are you.
Russ:But I don't wanna think out I don't how do you think of yourself in the 3rd person? It sounds like you're nuts.
Lindz:Oh, it doesn't.
So
to me, I think this happens a lot when people are driving. Right? I think eulism is something that comes out a lot when people drive because of road rage. You're not thinking about the person in the other car. You're thinking about the car. So you're not thinking about that person and their emotions and their feelings and what they're going through. You're thinking about the car. Right? They might be driving home and driving crazy because they gotta poop real bad.
Russ:Sure. Just let them go, man.
Lindz:And then
you yourself almost become the 3rd person. Like, you're you are the car. Like, you're again, not thinking about
your emotions, your feelings towards everybody else. You're just trying to think about your car moving forward.
In some ways, I think that mentality
should take you out of
feelings of anxiety and
depression.
If you need to make a decision,
Russ:I think it could work. I don't know. I don't I I don't know. I just try to live in the now period
and if there's a thing that I gotta do for work,
I will do it
and I'm going to do my best at it. And if they don't like it, I tried, man.
I tried. That's deep. I know. I done tried it.
No. But seriously, though, like, I I think people need to pull back and stop.
I don't know.
Not caring because that sounds like you're just gonna live your life and not give a shit, which I think you should give a shit, but
Yeah. We don't want you to be a sociopath. Right. Pull it back and just look at it as another task. You do it. Do your best at it clearly, but
if you do it, don't worry about
if it's done right. At least you tried.
Lindz:Mhmm. And you can learn from it. As long as you have the willingness to learn from it, you're good. And again, I think that kind of is what they're trying to do. They're trying to take emotion out of decisions because motion
will
Russ:cloud your judgment. Right? Well, a 100%. We're all emotional
people.
Lindz:Absolutely. Specifically at work, if you use this, it's
to essentially hone in on what's the problem and how to solve it Yeah. Without
the intricacies
Russ:of emotion. The what now? Intricacies.
Oh, there's a lot of.
Lindz:Speaking of work,
there are so many articles out there right now about things that are happening regarding
working from home remote work Yeah. Versus going back into the office.
There
are many Fortune 500 companies that are calling people back. I know. I saw. And there are still some companies who offer
remote work
as a perk
and are maintaining that for certain positions. Yeah. Not all.
Russ:There's just that's just the fact of the nature of work is there's always going to be positions that you cannot
work from home for. Right. How are you gonna be an HVAC technician from home? Hey. I'm gonna diagnose your shit remotely, and I'm gonna fix it remotely.
If only. Right? Yeah. That might happen eventually, but One day.
Lindz:But I found this one article,
and
to me, again the idea of reading both sides, right? You have to read
what one side is saying about returning to work and what the other side is saying.
This article
states the damaging results of the mandated return to the office,
and it's worse than they thought.
Russ:Alright. Why would they think otherwise?
Lindz:So the greenhouse
report has ranked employees' priorities as
increased compensation,
greater job security,
career advancement opportunities,
better flexible work policies,
and a more positive work culture.
So all 5 of those things
are what people want in an organization.
And then the mandated return to work
is essentially killing 1.
Russ:Yeah. Flexibility. Right? Yep. Yeah.
Lindz:But that can also impact the other areas,
Russ:your positive company culture. Yeah. How do you, if you're forcing people back to work, how does one look at that in a positive light?
Lindz:Exactly.
According to the report, overall, the top feelings employees revealed they felt toward the office were
happy, 31%,
motivated, 30%, and excited, 27%.
However, all 3 of these feelings decrease for those with mandated
office returns.
Dropping happy down to 27%,
dropping
motivate
motivated down to 26%,
dropping
excited down to 22%.
So in other words, staff members were more open to returning to the office if it was out of choice
rather than forced.
Russ:So that's one article. Yeah. I think giving a choice is the right way to do it. I I don't know. I don't know why anybody would still go in, though. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Businesses and Yes. Employees? I agree. Because if they say, oh, if I was given a choice, then I would be much happier. If you were given a choice, you wouldn't be going in.
So they can't give you a choice?
But
what you can do about it is find another job. Mhmm. You know, I think that as a workforce,
we should all be
pushing and trying to find what we want, And if you wanna work from home, there's plenty of companies that'll work from home only.
Lindz:I agree. I think when you have a job, best time to look for 1 is when you have 1. Right? Yeah.
Russ:So
Lindz:the idea of
Russ:forcing people to do things, to me, is just gonna result in turnover. I agree with you a 100%, and but the beauty is is there's a free market,
and you forcing people to return to work, they can always go somewhere else that's not gonna force them to return to work. So companies
out there
use this to your advantage to hire some top tier people.
Exactly. Say, alright. You can work from home for me, though. The big one that just announced return to work is Zoom. Yeah. I know. I'm like, what the fuck? You don't make sense. Your whole premise
is remote. Yeah. You're a remote work
company. I'm confused. Use your own products.
Lindz:What what are you trying to tell us about your products? Yeah. I mean, they're they're supposedly Chinese owned too, I think. Oh, I don't know. I think.
It's just interesting. The idea that
there's always two sides to the story. Right?
People are saying that remote work causes more burnout than people being in an office. And then they say that making it a mandate to return to office is hurting people's morale and company culture.
So like you said, it is a rock and a hard place for sure.
But what's the lesser of 2 evils?
Russ:They can continue to
require people to return from work, but they also have to expect
turnover. Right. A 100%. They're they know that, though.
They're gonna expect turnover, and maybe they do increase compensation or something like that to keep people on. Maybe they say, if you come back to work, that's what they should do. They should say, come back to work and we'll give you, I don't know, 10% increase. That would be very appetizing for many people, I would think. Yeah. They would say, alright. That covers my car
and my gas more more than my car and my gas or whatever it is. Yep. Although, if you haven't gotten a raise in a couple years, inflation does it cover inflation plus all that wear and tear on your car? As long as you're not buying coffee, that's one of the highest inflated products out there right now, I think. Are you sure? Yeah.
Coffee went up like 80 something percent or something crazy like that. Good grief. It doesn't surprise me. Yeah. So they want you to go back into work
with high inflated coffee, so you can't drive in because you're a doozy.
Lindz:Doozy? What?
What the fuck?
Russ:Try again. You hit your
drowsy.
Lindz:What are you right now, Russ? I'm juicy.
Holy shit. Like, you're a little drowsy. I'm going back to bed. I think you need to. Yeah.
So all that to say,
whether or not your company is returning to work or whether or not your company is sticking it out and allowing teleworking,
remote working.
I think we all think about leaving work. Right?
Russ:As long as you're
I think it it is definitely something that everybody is
Lindz:on board with. Right. The idea that,
oh, I can't wait for the end of the day or even, oh, I can't wait for vacation or when am I gonna retire. How sad is that? I know. That's our life. But
I wonder if there's anybody desperate enough to do what these
Nigerian stowaways did.
Russ:Did you hear about this story? They were sitting on the rudder or something, weren't they? 14 days. On the rudder? Sitting on the rudder
Lindz:of a ship
in order to leave
Nigeria and go I think they docked in South America. I can't remember exactly where. But a 14 day trip. In the last 4 days, they had no more food or clean water. They were drinking ocean water
Russ:I heard that to stay alive. I heard that shit gives you diarrhea if you drink it. They stayed alive. Oh my goodness. They made it, and they are
Lindz:they were stowed away. Am I desperate enough to do that yet?
Russ:Like, is that a thing? What? To quit my job and stow away for 14 days? Yeah. I mean, I somewhere else? I guess it depends on where
what the light at the end of the tunnel is. Mhmm. Going from Nigeria to I think it was Brazil, but I need to fact check that. I'm not. I don't know how their living conditions were or anything like that. So True. But to be fair, them taking that trip
Shows? It shows that it must have been pretty bad. Yep.
Lindz:To try and seek life elsewhere. But 14 days on a rudder? That a metal piece Uh-huh. On the back of a ship that is moving. Yeah.
Russ:I'd have been shitting my pants for 14 days straight.
Lindz:I would have been terrified.
Oh my. Like, how do you stay on it? Like
Russ:They just I I don't know. How do you sleep? 14 days is a long time. I don't think you can go 14 days without
sleeping some. Right.
Lindz:Like, fear of falling off and being in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean? No, thank you. Guess your body just
Russ:makes you go to sleep at that point. Right. Exhaustion
takes you
and you're just like, alright. Well, I hope I don't Somebody hold me. Uh-huh. Then maybe that's what they did. Yeah. How many it was 2 people. Right?
Not sure. Need to fact check that. I think it was 2 people. So maybe one slept and one kinda kept an eye on them to make sure that they, didn't fall in.
It was a mutual,
symbiotic
relationship
from Nigeria to South America.
Hello?
Lindz:Yeah. 2 men. Yeah.
Crazy. And it was in Brazil that they arrived. Okay.
Russ:Wow.
So maybe that's what they did. They rotated.
Oh my gosh. I couldn't imagine. I wouldn't have made it a day because I would've ate all the food in day 1,
Drank all the water in day 1,
Lindz:and that's it. Let's evolve on this topic a little bit because
say you had the total comfort. Instead of being a stowaway on a ship, let's say you jump on a cruise ship.
Would you jump on one for 2 years?
And literally live there on a cruise ship for 2 years, it docks at different ports around the world, would you live on a cruise ship for 2 years?
Russ:I don't know. I feel like the answer would be, obviously, you'd have to have Internet and stuff
because you have to work.
So if you have a work from home job,
I think you can make it work. Yeah.
As long as there's food too and need to eat.
Lindz:We are stuck on this food point right now. Yeah.
I don't know. I feel like,
to your point, how do these people
keep paying? Right?
You pay for the 2 years up front or you're paying during
the whole event. So you're paying rent. And then food, is it included? Is it not?
For 2 years being on a ship, though, I don't know. I think accommodations
Russ:are pretty small too. Ship rooms
Lindz:aren't big. Right. Because they're trying to fit a lot of people. Unless you're completely
Russ:fucking loaded, but I don't know. Why would you if you were loaded, why would you go on a cruise ship for 2 years?
Lindz:K. So we already talked about the stowaway.
We talked about being on a cruise ship for 2 years.
Last cruise type, you ready?
There is
a cruise departing out of Tampa next year.
It's a nude cruise.
Russ:Ew.
Lindz:Would you do it? No.
I can't imagine.
Russ:I cannot imagine doing this. At least if you're on, like, a nude beach, you have your own space, but you're on a boat. That's a tiny boat. I mean, not a tiny boat. Space. That's what I mean. Yeah. It's
yeah. Pool deck is gonna be fucking stinking.
Lindz:Can you
imagine?
Well, I'm like, okay. So George just laid on that lounge chair, and now you're gonna go lay on it? No. You he was naked. Now you're gonna be naked. You're I can't. At least they don't need to bring suitcases.
That's
Russ:that's what somebody said. Luggage isn't an issue. Yeah. They don't have to check. That would be a pretty good onboard process.
Lindz:I can't imagine
jumping on a ship
and
Russ:everybody being naked and then having to go and sit where other naked people sat. Yeah. I think dinner is in a big room. Sit down. Yeah. But it's in a big room with a bunch of people smashed up against each other. Imagine after a hot day,
Lindz:every Somebody leaning over the hot rotisserie chicken and getting naked.
Russ:You think the workers are naked too?
No. That's nasty. I'd be wearing a gas mask in that place if I was working there. That's vile.
Lindz:Well, I didn't even think about the people working there. Like, a, are they naked too? And if they're not,
Russ:are they Breaking my experience. Are they okay? Like,
Lindz:they're seeing a lot of schlong
Ugh.
Russ:Around. And you know what though? I bet
that 90% of the people that are gonna go on there are fucking, like, 90 years old.
Seriously. All from the villages? Yeah. Yeah. All from the villages. So that shit is just sagging around everywhere.
Lindz:Have loofahs everywhere. Flapping.
Russ:If you get a little bit of a windstorm, that shit's just flapping in the wind.
Lindz:I can't. Okay.
So it sounds like maybe stowaway, but food's an issue for you. I'm not stowing away on no nude ship. I'll die.
You wouldn't see anybody.
Russ:I can't. On the rudder. Not okay. They could say, hey.
You don't have to take the rudder. You can stay in the boat
with all the nude people. I'd say, I know I'm taking a rudder.
Okay. I'm glad we clarified that. I'm taking a photo of it. Is iffy. Right? 2 years is iffy. So you gotta look at it in a way that you're not gonna see your family for 2 years Mhmm. Which is a big deal.
And
once you once you get on there, you don't have control of where you're gonna go. You're just prescribed
Right. What you're doing. An agenda. Yeah. You you get an agenda, an itinerary, or whatever, and you're going
to the places that you signed up for. Mhmm. I mean, yeah, it sounds good at first, but what if it gets old? What if you get sick? I know they have onboard doctors and all that stuff, but what if you get really sick Mhmm. And you have a heart attack?
You're
you gotta get helicoptered off of that fucking thing. I don't know. It just sounds dangerous.
Lindz:I don't know about dangerous. I think you're thinking worst case scenarios. I am because
Russ:2 years is a very long time.
Agreed. So something could happen
within 2 years, and
you have to wait to go to a hospital.
Lindz:Can you imagine spouses on that thing?
Russ:Yeah. The rooms are like sardine cans on this thing. On it for 2 years No. Like, with your spouse. Lots of divorces are gonna happen when they go to port.
Lindz:Right? They end up having to split the room. Well, speaking of sharing a small room,
do we want to talk about sharing our office?
Russ:Oh, I don't care.
Lindz:Since we moved to Florida Yep. Even before that, actually, in Virginia even, We had a room that was designated as the office. Right. And there are 3 desks in it. 1 for each of us plus our daughter,
and
we share the space. Mhmm. And while our daughter was doing virtual school back in 2020
for kindergarten
dear god.
It worked out decently that we were in the room with her and could help her because at the time, she couldn't read. That's unreal.
Instructions on the screen. So we would lean over, help her, and she'd be able to complete the task.
Here we are in 2023,
and we're in Florida. We have a designated office room, and we share the space. Yes.
I posted
on our Instagram story last night. I don't know if you saw it. I did.
So I am a the type of person where I need to focus. I need moments of clear
focus.
I need quiet
and or like jazz music playing in the background.
I need moments of focus.
Do you know what Russ does? What do I do? Explain this. In my moments of focus?
Russ:What do I do?
Lindz:Either try and talk to me about something. It could be anything. It could be lunch, dinner. It could be I heard a good song.
Russ:Lens, what's the sore on my butt?
Lindz:Maybe. It could be. But at any point in time, I know I have my focus face on. I know I do. I need a light. I need a light that says when I'm busy and free
so you know when you can talk to me. You think a light's gonna stop me?
This is true. But there are times when I look over at you and you have your focus face on and I don't interrupt. I don't look at you before I start making noises.
Russ:I was teleworking by myself for 2 years. Uh-huh.
So I had to make entertainment.
Being here by myself all day, I would make random ass noises to make myself get through the day.
That's why I don't wanna talk about myself in the 3rd person. I'm almost insane.
If I start talking to myself in the 3rd person, it's over. I done stepped over the line.
Lindz:I'm gonna get his lights.
Russ:It's not gonna work.
You have to physically move your desk out of this room for it to work.
Lindz:I don't think that would even help, to be honest with you. You will seek me. I probably will. I'll walk over there and be like,
Russ:and then come back to my room.
Well, yeah, I mean, the part of the issue too is, like, I'll take the dog out, and I come back in, and I just start yelling.
Oh, she got boy.
And then you're in a you're in a client meeting or something, and you're like,
Yeah. That's great. That sounds awesome. Yep. Thanks so much. Why are you yelling? My husband's an idiot.
Lindz:So the saga of the shared office continues, and what we end up doing is
to be determined. But we're talking about
moving spaces,
and we'll figure it out. But if you share a space with the spouse,
give us your story because It's bad.
Ours is one of
I need the focus time,
and Russ has no awareness
of my focus phase. No.
Russ:No. I don't.
Because in that moment, I'll I gotta do something. I'm bored. So
and and make you all jacked up, and then you talk to me for 2 seconds. You're like, shut up. I'm doing something. I'm like, but this is important.
What is it
then? Can we have macaroni and cheese for dinner?
Lindz:Dinner is very important
in this household.
Understood.
Russ:Yeah. Rudder food
and,
14 days of snacks all at once. Fourteen days of snacks in the first day. Don't make it the rest of the way, but that first day was fucking good.
Lindz:I think that's all for today. Yes. Love you.
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