Florida Man in a Hamster Wheel, Country Music and Debt

Jump aboard the rollercoaster of Florida's peculiar headlines, from bounty hunting for invasive fish species to hamster wheel Atlantic crossings, in this jam-packed episode. Russ and Lindz also offer a comparative analysis of the travel experiences at...

Jump aboard the rollercoaster of Florida's peculiar headlines, from bounty hunting for invasive fish species to hamster wheel Atlantic crossings, in this jam-packed episode. Russ and Lindz also offer a comparative analysis of the travel experiences at Florida's airports, with an amusing sidetrack about the trials of airport parking. The discussion then takes a twangy turn as they marvel at an independent country musician's success without a record label, and wrap up with some practical nuggets of wisdom about managing personal finances. Listen in for an episode filled with bizarre wildlife, busy airports, catchy country tunes, and some pretty unusual personal finance tips. It's all served with a generous helping of laughter and a side of the eternal question - is the cheaper flight really worth the parking hassle?
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Timestamps:
(00:00:01) The Unholy Union podcast introduction
(00:00:30) Discussion about delays and weekly updates
(00:01:35) Discussion about Florida being a crazy state
(00:03:15) Discussion about FWC Fish and Wildlife Research
(00:04:23) Discussion about bounty hunting in Florida
(00:06:19) Discussion about hurricanes and storm surge
(00:07:45) Discussion about hurricane preparedness
(00:11:22) Discussion about updates to Orlando airport
(00:19:00) Discussion about best employers in Florida
(00:26:34) Discussion about Oliver Anthony's success and CMA nominations
(00:30:09) Discussion about Oliver Anthony's refusal of offers
(00:32:10) Discussion about the potential earnings of a musician
(00:32:43) Conversation about the dislike of seasonal changes and living in Florida
(00:38:00) Explanation of the Dave Ramsey method for getting out of debt
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Chapters

00:01 - The Unholy Union podcast introduction

00:30 - Discussion about delays and weekly updates

01:35 - Discussion about Florida being a crazy state

03:15 - Discussion about FWC Fish and Wildlife Research

04:23 - Discussion about bounty hunting in Florida

06:19 - Discussion about hurricanes and storm surge

07:45 - Discussion about hurricane preparedness

11:22 - Discussion about updates to Orlando airport

19:00 - Discussion about best employers in Florida

26:34 - Discussion about Oliver Anthony's success and CMA nominations

30:09 - Discussion about Oliver Anthony's refusal of offers

32:10 - Discussion about the potential earnings of a musician

32:43 - Conversation about the dislike of seasonal changes and living in Florida

38:00 - Explanation of the Dave Ramsey method for getting out of debt

Transcript
Russ:

This is The Unholy Union. A podcast where you'll be subjected to highly offensive marital discourse. If you do not feel insulted during this week's episode, don't worry, we'll try harder next week. If you can relate to our ramblings, we wanna be friends with you. If you believe that we take it too far or our mouths are too much for you, then with as much love and sincerity as we can muster, you can suck it. Welcome to the Unholy Union.

Once again, a little delay.

I I don't think that was delayed. Yeah. It was. I hit the button 10 seconds ago.

Lindz:

Hello? Well, great.

You ready for this week? I guess. And all the craziness?

I guess. I think we need to come up with, like, a motto

about life is crazy, move to Florida, or something like that. I don't know. Why?

Because every time we do one of these, like, we weekly update, weekly headline type

podcasts,

Russ:

it's always like, shit's crazy. Yeah. I know. But why would you want to move to the craziest state?

Lindz:

I don't think Florida is the craziest state. What do you think is the craziest state? I'm a I guess Florida's probably pretty okay.

Russ:

Well, I mean, California is its own breed. So Yeah. But, like, they're

Lindz:

crazy in a different way. Like, crazy wild

is Florida. Yeah. Crazy wild is definitely Florida. Maybe Nevada too because of Las Vegas. Like, crazy wild. I don't know. Okay. I think Florida's top, though. Speaking of Florida.

Russ:

Sorry. You should've seen the face that she made right there. Oh,

Lindz:

The FWC

Fish and Wildlife Research

will give you $50

per cobia caught.

Russ:

Per cobia? They're also doing it for lionfish, I think. Really? I don't know how much the the tag is, though, for

Lindz:

Well, for Cartagena,

they

it's like they want you to show

that you caught it within 24 hours,

and then you can keep the fillets.

Russ:

Yeah. I guess they just wanna count. They might not be native or something. They might

I think. But the issue is is they are invasive, and they are taking over Florida waters.

So

they are Dangerous. They're dangerous, but they're also

destroying

habitats for other fish that are Florida native. But FWC is allowing you to spearfish them and turn them in, and you get paid. Plus, I think

you are entered into some contest

depending on how many fish you turn in. Interesting.

Well, I think Florida has bounty hunting. Let's just be clear here. For fish. Florida has bounty hunting.

For fish, I think they're

Lindz:

they do it for pythons too. Yeah. Burmese pythons and riverlades. And I think there's also a system for iguana. There was a lady who I forget what her real job was, but it was like some highfalutin, high paying real

job. She quit, moved to the Everglades, and now catches Burmese pythons.

Russ:

For for a living. For a living. That's crazy. Yeah. I think there's an iguana one too. I don't know how much they pay for that, but

they're invasive also and they're

impossible to get rid of. You see them motherfuckers falling out of trees when it gets cold here and then they just wake back up and start running again.

Lindz:

Yeah. It was, what, 75 here yes or yesterday? Was it yesterday? It was yesterday. I know. Anyways but after it rained, it was, like, 75. I was, like, what is this place? I know. I thought we were in winter.

It was so cold.

Did you also see Florida man most recently, the most recent Florida man headline?

No. I don't think so. He is trying to cross the Atlantic.

Russ:

In a hamster wheel. Right?

Lindz:

From the US to the UK and a giant hamster wheel.

The coast guard arrested him

for being essentially in the middle of the Atlantic, not middle, but off the coast of Georgia near an island, coast guard arrested him for being in a giant hamster wheel saying he's going to the UK. Why would they arrest him? Let him do his thing, man.

I don't know. Maybe they thought he was insane? He's in a giant hamster wheel. He probably is. Uh-huh. But leave him alone. Let him go. I thought that too. Like, too too well, I don't know. So for your own safety, maybe bring him in. Right? No. But arrest?

Russ:

Like For your own safety. See, that's a slippery slope that I don't want the government to make decisions on for your own safety. We have to do this and this. Okay. But you're in a little I mean, it was a giant hamster wheel. But food, water, where are your supplies? He's gonna die. He okay.

That's his decision to take that risk.

He probably had a backpack on with snacks.

Nigga? Yeah. I can't. But he thought it was a great idea that he was gonna go out. I say they let him go, mate. But what if you wanted to be, like, Guinness Book of World Records or whatever? So what they should do, the coast guard should arrest him and give him a GoPro with an Internet connection so he can livestream this shit because I would like to watch

to see if he does make it and if he hits storms and stuff.

Lindz:

Well, and then he gets into international waters, and then what? Submarine gonna sink his ass. Unidentified

Russ:

vessel.

Lindz:

Alien.

Russ:

Unidentified

vessel.

Lindz:

I thought that. Identify yourself.

If you haven't seen it, look it up. Like, the picture of this thing Yeah. Is hilarious. I saw it. The dude made that. Mhmm. Let him do it.

I get I don't know. I don't know how I feel about it. Would you be he gonna hurt other than himself?

Russ:

Other than himself, probably nothing. Okay. Well, then just how I feel about seat belts.

The govern yeah. They're a good idea to wear them. They're proven to save you, but should they be telling you what to do?

No. It's not gonna hurt anybody else by getting a car crash and I don't have a fucking seat belt on. That should become like a projectile out of the world. Kinda cool.

Lindz:

Really dark there. Let's bring it back. Yeah.

So

all this Florida stuff, and now we have another hurricane heading this way Yeah. If you haven't heard. But it's not it's not like Defcon

3 yet. It did make it so hurricane Lee did make it up to a 5. Yes. But it's not anywhere near even Puerto Rico or any of the islands

in the Atlantic. So it's staying away from everybody even it's not even supposed to hit Florida. It's supposed to veer out and go into the Atlantic Ocean and die. Yes. It's not a threat to anyone yet. Exactly. But these hurricanes have a mind of their own. We'll see what happens.

Russ:

And the news tends to sensualize

Lindz:

things, and that's what's happening right now. Yep. And Margo's right behind it. Hurricane Margo's right behind it. We'll see what happens with that one as well.

But if you are new to Florida

or

if you're worried about your family in Florida, please watch Dennis Phillips from ABC. I think he's ABC News. I don't know. But Dennis Phillips. I think the point his big point is never freak out until Rule number 7. Yeah. Don't freak out. Yeah. Don't panic. And

Russ:

just

wait.

Watch it. That's the beauty of hurricanes.

We know it's out there. Stay vigilant. Don't be a dumbass and, like, turn a blind eye to it because Don't worry about your hurricane snacks. Yeah. Don't do that and get fluffy. Yeah. Just

chill out until you really need to pack up and start moving. Yep. We made preparations a long time ago.

Lindz:

We have

Russ:

freeze dried food. We have water.

We have methods to get water if the Our water supply runs out. If our water supply runs out, fill up your bathtubs if you plan on hunkering down, things like things of that nature. The biggest thing too is

don't stay around if you're in a storm surge zone. Right. That's the scariest stuff because you can't run from that. Yep. Dennis Phillips says that. I'm not that's his phrase is you can't run from storm surge. Once it's there, it's over. Yep. You can hide from the wind, but you're supposed to run from storm surge when you can. From the water. Yes. But so don't wait.

If they say, hey You need to go. You should probably evacuate. Now that's another thing, though, too. That's the government telling you what to do.

But

once again, that's your decision.

But I feel like

it's definitely

scary to live on the coast somewhere when a hurricane hits because that water rises

Wake. And it rises like what?

We saw a sign at one of these boat ramps that said water was water rose up to here, and it was, like, 30 feet high. Yep. That whole place was

Lindz:

Underwater.

Russ:

Was decimated. Yep. So people that were there, I hope they knew how to swim.

Lindz:

I don't think it matters at that point. No. Because that's when it's it's surging like that. That's rushing water. It's not just pretty,

Russ:

you know.

My my town's a lake. No. It's like rapids Right. With currents and Too much. Pulling you everywhere.

Lindz:

Yeah. We live obviously, we've said it a 1000000 times. We lived in we live in the Tampa Bay area, we talked about it last week where the Tampa Bay has, what, 4 to 6

Russ:

different Estuaries?

Lindz:

Rivers that pour into it. Forget what that tributaries.

Russ:

Oh, sorry.

Lindz:

Yeah. Words.

But

they do rise. Even the rivers rise when They rise a lot. Mhmm. So in this area, specifically,

the rivers rising, the storm surge on the coast. It becomes a big deal. Yes. For us,

where we live, we're more inland than all of that. We're actually where people evacuate too Yep. In the Tampa Bay area. They end up closing schools and everything. They become the shelters. We're in a we're in a safe area. We are comfortable with where we are, but if we were ever

advised to evacuate,

we would. We're gonna follow those evacuation notices and stay safe. But where would you wanna go? I'm trying to think.

Or you'd go north. Right? I guess it depends on where the storm's gonna hit. Exactly.

If it's hitting us directly in the Tampa Bay area, where would you wanna go? Okay. If it's hitting us directly in Tampa Bay area and the track says that it's going to either

go north

or

go

what's that way? East? West. West. Thank you. If it's shut up.

I know my never eat soggy weeds. Okay. Okay. Keep going.

If it goes northwest,

Russ:

then I think we would go southeast. Right? I have no idea. That's what's confusing about this because once hurricanes make landfall, they veer and

it's like

you just need to go, but just go somewhere. I don't know where. Just go. Plane.

Go to Missouri. Yeah. Go Just sit. Go to the UK in a hamster wheel.

He was running from the hurricane. That's what he was doing. Yeah. Yeah. He said he saw Lee and got scared.

Lindz:

Speaking of jumping on a plane, see, I'm I got my flow going here. Stick with me.

Appreciate it. Thank you. I can't. Okay. So

Russ:

the Orlando airport, we've been there a few times this past year. Not a big fan. It's very dated. Yes. And I am I will say I am spoiled by Tampa Bay air the Tampa International Airport. It is insanely efficient to go in. We have a fucking badass flamingo that's coming out of the ceiling. Mhmm.

Lindz:

I wonder what they named him. I never heard. Oh, Flammie.

Russ:

Flammie. Flammie? Okay. I don't know. Heard here.

Lindz:

We're calling it flammy. Flammy the flamingo. You should've entered the contest. They had a whole contest about it. I didn't hear the results, but Me neither.

Russ:

What was I saying? Oh, Orlando. Tampa airport? Yeah. Tampa Bay or Tampa International Airport is insanely efficient. Dulles is good. Brand new. It's so nice. Like, they have everything set up to where you you're kind of

Lindz:

shimmying along quickly. Mhmm. Dulles International in Virginia is also really good.

Reagan's, it's okay.

Russ:

It's alright. That's what we flew into when we went Into DC. Yeah. Into DC. Yeah. That wasn't nice. No. It's dated too. Real bad dated.

Lindz:

Yep. But the Orlando airport is trying to get itself updated. Modernized.

The I believe it's the mayor of Orlando is spending

multimillions

on an update project to the airport itself.

And they're going to start giving out or allowing people to buy, get this, day passes to spend the day at the airport. Why the fuck would you wanna do that? Back in the early days back in the early days when flying became something that people could do, it was a luxury. It was yeah. It was prestigious. You were

Russ:

high fluting if you were flying to your destination.

Lindz:

Everybody was like, wow. Got on the airplane? Yeah. And they serve meals and alcohol? Yeah. Like, look at airplane footage from back in the day, and it's a totally different experience. Yep. So I think what the mentality is, people back then even used to go to airports

and sit there and watch planes take off because it was a marvel. Right? Yeah. To see planes flying. And there's restaurants

and things there too. It's almost like in a mall experience. Right. So I think that's the mentality of what he's trying to do

because there are certain stores, specifically the Disney store that is in the Orlando airport that has experiences that you don't get anywhere outside of the airport. So what do you do? You sell passes for people to go in there. There is a

floor to ceiling, 2 story tall screen

that changes the experience every time you look at it. Right now, I think it's Halloween based. Okay. So it's something you want to go do. Right? No.

Now they're selling

day passes

to the airport.

Russ:

I no. I'm good.

Lindz:

The only thing I think about when I think of airports is stress. Yeah. Flying sucks. I don't mind flying. So Yes. You do. The flying part is not

Russ:

No. But sitting, crammed in a freaking tube.

Lindz:

Finding parking,

Russ:

getting into the airport, figuring out your terminal. Yeah. That's the other bet. Through security. That's the other really bad part about Orlando is every time we've flown out of Orlando,

parking was a freaking nightmare.

Mhmm. Like, I remember yeah. This last time. Where did we go? Virginia. Right?

No. Pennsylvania was the last one. Okay. Pennsylvania. We went to PA,

and

there was a person up there directing traffic. Okay. There's parking up here, you know, that they were holding a sign up saying there's parking.

We went up there and there was no parking.

I was very mad at that person.

Was like, I drove all the way up here because you said this.

And we kept driving in circles Uh-huh. In circles until we found somebody leaving. Yeah. That's the thing too. It's kinda creepy because you're following people as they're carrying their suitcases to their car, and I'm like, this is weird. I wouldn't want people doing this

to me. I'm walking back to my car at night

trying to find my car so I can leave, and there's this car riding real slow behind me.

It's creepy.

Lindz:

Again, all those things, like, all those parts of going to

the airport and flying,

It's really stressful.

But

would it be would that mentality still be there if you go to the airport to spend the day for no reason?

Russ:

Yes. Because,

that's the thing too.

If he's selling day passes, where are these people parking? In the in the parking spots that people that are actually flying are trying to park in. True. So you're messing with the people that are actually at the airport to do what you're supposed to do at an airport Interesting. And fly. I didn't think about that because

Lindz:

they don't well, maybe they will. I don't know. But currently, current state, they don't have a place to hold those kinds of people. They have the

parking right at the airport. I forget what that's called. Premium parking or something like that. There's the parking for the hotel, and then there's all of these

economy parking lots that are further away. You take a shuttle to get to the airport. Right.

Where would they go? Where would the day pass people park?

Russ:

I don't it sounds like a terrible idea. Maybe when they maybe they only sell day passes when they're Not peak flight. Yeah. Peak flight time, like holiday weekends or something like that. I don't know. It just sounds stupid to me. Like I said, we've been there. We've flown out of there twice.

Wasn't it or was it more?

I think it's twice. Yeah. We've flown out of there twice, and both times,

it was a nightmare to park.

Lindz:

Yes. That is true.

However, it is the cheaper

airport compared to Tampa

and Saint Pete slash Clearwater

Russ:

airport. But is it worth the stress of

trying to find that damn parking spot? I'm telling you, that was that is the most

Lindz:

stressful. But I'm saying Okay. So this is number 2 on your list. Okay.

Russ:

But that that just delays you going through security, so you don't know if you're gonna make it. And you don't know how long the line in security is. Yeah. It's crazy.

I can't it's no.

Lindz:

That's a fair point. I wonder what they'll do about parking situation if they'll add to or not. How are they gonna add to? It's

Russ:

they have to build new buildings and new garages for that.

Maybe that's part of his expansion plan. Right. Is that so why is he doing this day pass thing? Is it to raise funds for the expansion?

Lindz:

To

no. I I'm not sure when the day pass starts.

Russ:

I I I'm not sure. Oh, okay. I was just wondering if it was like a ploy to get people just to go.

Lindz:

And Well, it's definitely a revenue driver for sure. Maybe.

Russ:

You're gonna piss people off. They're gonna go from Orlando to Tampa or

whatever other airport because they can't find a fucking parking spot.

Seriously, that was the worst.

We I remember we got there. We went to was it I think yeah. It was PA, and we it was on a July 4th weekend, so that's a problem. Don't get me wrong.

But we left here

on a Thursday. Thursday. Yep. We left a few days earlier thinking we were going to be able to beat that rush.

Nope. No. Didn't matter.

Lindz:

Yep.

It was interesting.

They actually put out a recent list and they are

who are they?

Russ:

I think my favorite part about Orlando airport though is seeing all the people fly in and have their Mickey ears and stuff. It cracks me up. I'm like, I live here.

Lindz:

Yeah. They all had on their Disney stuff. Oh, yeah.

So Forbes actually recently released the United States best employers

list.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, actually, it's a study. They did it by state, and it included Florida in it. Oh, I would assume it would. Right.

The study used survey date data from Statista

of 70,000

workers at companies across the country ranking different firms based on whether participants would recommend them to others.

So I wanna do Florida

and I want you

to give me what you or who, what, or who, you think would be the top 3

employers in Florida. Publix.

Wrong. Okay. Not employers. Not by count of people,

but by highly recommended

best employers

in the state of Florida. Google.

Google was number 3.

Russ:

Microsoft?

Lindz:

Microsoft was number 5. Damn.

Russ:

There's a bunch of Miami companies too.

These are national companies. Yeah. I know. I know. I'm saying that there's a bunch of, like Well, I'm trying to give you a hint for the top 2. Tech products and

Lindz:

national companies. What does that mean? These are companies that are nationwide Oh, okay. But they employ in Florida and people in Florida would recommend them. Walmart.

Oh.

Russ:

Please. I don't see that. I don't I wouldn't expect it to be on.

Lindz:

So number 1 Yeah. Was NASA.

Russ:

Okay.

Lindz:

Floridians like working at NASA, apparently. I can see that. Yeah. Number 2 is Costco.

Russ:

Yeah. I've heard a lot about

Costco being, like, top tier because

their CEO,

at least previously, their CEO

was very employee centric.

I think he only took

$250

a year salary or something like that. It was something insanely low for a CEO of a company like that.

Lindz:

Now that you said public, though, I don't even see them on the list for Florida. Which is weird Right. Because that's like a cult down here.

Russ:

Exactly. If you say if you go to church in Florida and you say pub subs suck, they're going to kill you.

That is sacrilegious. Yeah. They're going to kill you.

And and and you know what? I'm gonna say this right now. They're not that good.

They're good. They're just not I don't understand the cult following. I don't either. Because in Virginia, we had Harris Teeter, and they did the same exact subs. Yeah. It was the exact same there was a place in Virginia too that I wish we could find down here. It was called A Deli.

Mhmm. And it was was a mom and pop shop. I know, but it was a 1000000000 times better. Okay. Well And it was It's a mom and pop shop. I just don't understand the the cult following of this stuff. They're okay.

They're good.

To me, they're good in a pinch. Mhmm. But I'm not gonna go there because I'm like, man, I I need it. I need me a pub sub. That's like saying you need to go to Harris Teeter. Like, why? Yeah. Exactly. It's a fucking grocery store sub

with boar's head meat. Oh, well, maybe it'll make our podcast more popular.

Lindz:

That's what we want. Hate.

Okay. So I told you 1 through 3. You said number 5, so I'm just gonna tell you number 4 was Sarasota Memorial Hospital. So there are specific ones to Florida. Yeah. So I'm really surprised you said Publix, and I it's not oh, no. I lied. Publix is number 16. Yeah. But that seems really hot. I'm telling you. Publix is a cult down here.

Russ:

It's super weird. They talk about it all the time. When you go visit your family in

the north

and they don't have a Publix

type memes are always posted everywhere, I'm like,

okay.

Lindz:

I mean, don't get me wrong. The people who work there, I really enjoy. I do too. They are nice people. They seem happy.

So I'm not

I don't mind the experience

of Publix,

Russ:

but it's not something I'm It's just a grocery store. Right. To me, it's literally just a grocery store. Terrace Teeter. Yeah. With

I hate to say it, but they're expensive too. There's I'd rather shop at Aldi. Middle tier.

Lindz:

I don't know. They Where you have, like, Whole Foods and Wegmans and those type at the very tip top. Yeah. And then you have Harris Teeter and

Publix,

Russ:

and then you got, like, Giant and Winn Dixie and Giant Winn Dixie is where you buy your toilet paper because that place is shit.

Lindz:

I see what you did there.

Russ:

Okay. Although Winn Dixie just got bought out by Aldi, which I am very happy about.

Lindz:

We did that for

Florida.

What I wanna do is also do it for Virginia. Google.

Hold on.

I know. I'm pretty sure Google has this up, but I didn't there we go. Okay. Top 3 for Virginia. Which one what do you think they are? I said Google. Is Google up there?

Russ:

Because Google has a very, very, very big

Lindz:

location, I think, in Reston. Okay. So top 3. You said

Russ:

Google? What number? I don't know.

Top 3.

Google's number 1. Oh, okay. Yeah. I figured as much. K. What's Microsoft?

Lindz:

Microsoft is 4. Wow.

Russ:

Microsoft,

Amazon.

Lindz:

Amazon

Russ:

is not in the top list. Yeah. I didn't I I don't know why I would say that because they have very bad rap with

employees and things.

Lindz:

Microsoft, you said, was you said Microsoft was 4? Mhmm. So what's number 3? You got Google, number 1. Apple, number 2. Microsoft, number 4. Number 3. Verizon.

No. Navy Fed.

Navy Federal Credit Union. I thought that was interesting. Yeah. That may I mean, it makes sense. Their,

their big main base is there. And then guess what number 5 is? We were just talking about them. What? Wegmans.

Russ:

Was it?

Yeah. I've got a buddy that works there. Yeah. He likes it.

I don't know if he still works there. I haven't talked to him in a while because he's still in Virginia, but. Because life? Because life and kids and all that. But, yeah, I mean, I could see that though. Wegmans is kind of like

it's a little cultish too. For sure. Except it's more pumpkin spice moms and shit that go in there and

buy everything.

So You didn't think that was funny?

No.

I'm gonna get hate over that too. You can talk about talking shit about my pumpkin spice.

Lindz:

So it says the for the entire

US list, the number of companies on each state's list varied by the size of its companies and workforce.

Ultimately,

a total of 13

92,

1,392

organizations

made at least one state list with 269

ranking in multiple states. Nice.

Russ:

Really? You said 69.

Lindz:

Uh-huh.

So

it's a huge list though, and it goes across

Russ:

all 50 states. But does it do overall?

Lindz:

No. And I'm trying to figure out how to get it to do overall, but I think I need a Forbes premium description, and I ain't paying for that shit. Premium what?

Russ:

Subscription? You said description, I think. Said subscription.

Lindz:

So

I also wanted to talk about on a large country scale.

Over half of the country music sales

that have happened

for the past week or so, maybe a little bit further back,

went to Oliver Anthony.

Russ:

Half? Yep. Wow. But

Lindz:

he was not nominated for a single CMA.

Russ:

Yeah. You know why? Why is that? Because they don't he's an outsider.

He is

anti organizations

like that

because they're politicized too.

Seriously, they

are. They,

just pulled down Jason Aldean's small town stuff which is

being political and being biased. Mhmm.

Like it or not, Jason Aldean is a pretty popular country star. I personally don't like him, but they pulled down pulled down one of his songs, which is a joke. Right.

Lindz:

Yeah. But we go back to our conversation that we had

Russ:

last week. They're allowed to. Yes. Don't get me wrong. They're allowed to, but that doesn't mean that

we have to like it. Right. And do you think Oliver Anthony gives a shit that he's not nominated for a

CMA award

piece of crap that is literally worthless because of what they've done to become

politicized?

Lindz:

He keeps going online and saying that he's not doing this for the fame. Right? He's not putting out music for, really, any

particular

person. He's doing it for his love of music. Yeah. And mental health.

It helps him. Right. So he is putting this out for the love of it, not to get fame and recognition.

But when you get half of the country music sales for a week or so.

Russ:

Yeah. He was making $40 a day. That's insane.

Lindz:

Yeah. That's not bad. I mean And I still have yet to see a bad review of him. If he is

Russ:

truly I think he's trying to live off grid. Mhmm.

And if he's doing that, I hope he pays off all his stuff and he can really

attain that lifestyle.

Lindz:

Well, and keep producing music the way he wants to. That's what I mean. It's

Russ:

he's it's simple. It's a guitar

with a mic attached to it

and a microphone so he can sing. And they record it and they master it. And I don't know who may do that for him if he does it himself.

Lindz:

It doesn't matter. It sounds great. There's obviously somebody with the camera. Right? Yeah.

Russ:

Okay.

Could be his dog.

His dog is always laying in the grass. He has more than 1. Oh, okay. Gotcha. I know. I I do like how he has his dogs in the in his videos all the time. Yeah. So I thought that was interesting. I'm not surprised is all I have to say about that. CMAs have turned into

a pile of shite.

Lindz:

Yeah. It definitely seems like

Russ:

they are trying to make country music so popular Yeah. It pop. You're taking away exactly. You're taking away from what makes it country music. Oliver Anthony is country music. Jason Aldean, in my opinion, is not country music. He is more I was leaning more towards, like,

rock ish.

He got he's got kind of some songs that are kinda, like, heavier.

You know what I mean? And He's Fall Out Boy. He's pop. Yeah. I guess so. I don't know. It's strange. It but that's what they're they're pushing is all that weird like, Keith Urban. That's not country, man. Right.

That dude, first off, he's British.

I don't know. It could just funny, though. They're just pushing all this

not country music at the CMAs.

Lindz:

Yeah. I guess, to me, it's just crazy how much

money

Oliver Anthony is making. Good for you. How much

he is

compounding

on his

staying true to what he's been saying. Right? Yes. Like, I'm not doing this for the money. I have had

Russ:

major concerns over this since

he's kinda popped up in our feeds everywhere. I've I'm like, okay. When is he gonna switch? And I the way he's going I know. When is the offer when is he gonna get a offer that he can't refuse?

Lindz:

Yep. What step is that? What was it? How much did they offer him? 8,000,000? Yeah. And he said no.

I mean

Russ:

I know.

But that's what I was saying at first, but now that time has gone by and he's continuing to kinda be in the spotlight,

and he's still not accepting this stuff. It's very impressive.

Would you turn down $8,000,000?

Nope. Right. Goodness gracious. But at the same time, you probably would.

If you're making 40 g's a day, it's like,

do I really want to be held to this guy? This guy's gonna be my music boss.

Tell me what to do and how to do it.

You know, I'm gonna lose creative freedom like I have right now. I'm fucking making music in my backyard.

Lindz:

And I guess for him,

the way he's living isn't

bad. He's happy with what he's doing, what he's happy with what he has.

But people

like

me

who don't wanna have debt anymore.

Russ:

Yeah, make sure. Dollars sounds great. But you wouldn't have debt. You're making 40,000,000 or $40,000

a day. You'd pay off all your debt within one day.

Lindz:

I guess. Seriously, he's making money. I would not pay off all of our debt in one day. I'm not talking about the mortgage. Good lord.

Russ:

Yeah. He's making a ton of money. It's not like he needs the $8,000,000 to live good. Mhmm. 40,000 a day is a shitload of money. Right.

Okay. So he said no to you. I'm

I I think he's doing the right thing. Which is how much is that? A 120,000

Lindz:

a month?

Russ:

4 to yeah. Well,

no. It's more than that.

Lindz:

The leave off a 0? Yeah. 1,200,000

Russ:

a month.

That's a lot. Yeah. So that's more than $8,000,000. Although, he would probably make more. $8,000,000

is probably like a signing bonus, I bet. And then he would make Record sales. Record sales and then do concerts.

But Maybe he doesn't want that life. I was thinking that. Mhmm. He's gonna Were you thinking that? He was he was gonna have people telling him where to go, what to do, how to smile, what to wear. Mhmm. You remove all your creative freedom.

That's why I like podcasting.

Lindz:

Right.

Russ:

Because no one can tell us what to say. They can't tell us that we have to love pub subs and Exactly. Can't say that we don't like pumpkin spice. If we're found in a ditch somewhere tomorrow, it's because the pub sub cult is coming at us. We're the pumpkin spice cult. Yeah. The pumpkin spice Karens.

Lindz:

They might just come after us.

Russ:

I saw this meme about there's this girl, like,

blonde white chick up in a tree, and she was throwing up these random ass gang signs. It wasn't even really gang signs, but she was trying really hard.

She said, I just took a big hit of that pumpkin spice, dude.

I laughed so hard. I'm like, yep. Here we go. Yep. It's that time of year.

Lindz:

And, honestly, like, I living in Virginia, I never got excited about holidays. Like, I just did. I mean, as a kid, obviously, you do. But Yeah.

More as an adult,

just the weather change,

seasonal depression Yeah. No. Always got me down. Alright. Here we go. After Labor Day, everything is going to start dying and decaying. Yeah. It's gonna be gray skies and and cold.

Yep. Nothing looks green and vibrant anymore. Let's go

Russ:

break up all the leaves over and over again in the yard. And they're moldy and mildew and gross.

Lindz:

Just it wasn't ideal. Although, I have a friend who I'm currently working with right now who would argue me to death that it's beautiful and that she loves it and she can't believe that I didn't. And Yeah. But what is beautiful about that, there's a couple of days in there where the leaves are orange and red and all that. Yes. That looks great,

Russ:

but then all them bitches fall to the ground.

And then get somebody gotta pick them up. Yep.

Lindz:

So now, though, living in Florida where we don't have those change of seasons and I don't fall into seasonal depression,

Russ:

it's I'm more excited. Like, I want to decorate. I love I like I didn't really used to like Halloween because every year, we'd have to go out there and it was frigid. Uh-huh. We'd go out there and it's like, holy crap. You have to wear sweaters. 30 degrees out and you worry about your kiddo that because they've got a costume on, you can't

bundle them up because then they're not wearing a costume at that point. Mhmm.

And you're walking around miserable because it's cold. Yep.

Now,

it's Florida. Yep. It's 75, 80 degrees out,

and everybody's just chilling. Everybody's walking around.

Half the freaking neighborhood

has shot glasses out. So when the adults walk by here, you wanna take a shot? Okay. Go ahead.

Lindz:

Yeah. I never got excited to decorate the house before. It was always like, oh, here we go. But right now, here it is, what, September early September?

Russ:

I wanna decorate. Well, you already put up Halloween stuff.

We put up clings, window clings. Doesn't matter. It's not even October yet.

Lindz:

It's window clings. It's not gonna hurt anything, but I do wanna go all out. I wanna get all my head full and my

head full. I wanna pull it out. I wanna put it up. I'm excited.

Russ:

No.

Lindz:

I am. No. And, honestly,

our kiddo and her friends were singing Christmas music

Russ:

in her room a couple weeks ago. See, and I don't care about Christmas much. I don't I'm not, like, dreading Christmas as much. Not stressed about the idea of snow

Lindz:

and ice and the cold

Russ:

and having to drive in it. Yeah. I know. I hated that. I hated that so bad.

We have a, what do they do? Yeah. The green people. They do fertilizer or something.

Green people? Yeah. It's like green green

machine or some I don't remember what they're called, but they do fertilize fertilization in your yard,

chemical treatments, all that stuff for your for your lawn to keep it green.

They have a sign on their car that says free snow removal. Yeah.

I was laughing my ass off.

Mhmm. Because, like, yeah, that's because it did don't snow here. Mhmm.

Lindz:

It was awesome. I agree. And seriously, I I feel different

now this being our,

I guess, technically, our 3rd round It will be. Holidays. Yep. It will be our 3rd winter here. Yep. Yep.

Winter.

Russ:

There there was a perfect graphic of this on the Florida Memes Facebook page. It was,

the seasons. Right?

And

they had seasons everywhere else, which was like

summertime, which is the sun, but it had big muscles.

Fall was like a summer with real little muscles, like all skinny

and all that.

And winter was a cloud that was dark gray and looked kind of depressed. Right?

Well, Florida was different stages of the sun,

except it was super swole during the summer,

and it was swole during the fall. And then it got it was still kinda swole

in the,

winter and then spring, you know, all that. I I was laughing my ass. It was always sunny

was the point.

Why are you staring at me?

Lindz:

I feel like it took a really long time to get to this point. I know.

Russ:

That's because you're fucking drilling into my brain right now.

Good lord. That's killed me.

Lindz:

Are you done with your swole? Yeah. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I quit. Great. We got off track there, but let's bring it back to the idea of having all this money

and not necessarily even wanting it.

We

and when we talked about debt for a hot second there,

we are working our way out of debt. Yes.

We

when we moved to Florida,

we

didn't

calculate, I think, all the costs that we thought we were going to have right out the gate. It's super expensive to do a

Russ:

state to state move.

Lindz:

I I there were a lot of things that we didn't account for because they occurred when we got here. Like, they were unknowns to us in Virginia because they hadn't happened.

So for us, when we moved,

we did 3 pods. So that was a heavy expense, but we knew we were prepared for it. We were gonna stay in an Airbnb.

We knew that cost.

We were prepared for it.

But once we got here and we bought our house,

we were doing some renovations, and those lasted longer than we thought.

That's more cost on the Airbnb. Wonder why that was.

That was more cost on the Airbnb.

Then there was more cost related to storing the pods.

And there was just a lot of unknowns that happened. So we did end up

with

Russ:

more debt than we thought we were going to have in the move down here. Yeah. Our expenses shot up for the 1st 6 to 8 months of living here. Paying for an Airbnb,

I if looking back on it, I wish we would've just stayed at an extended stay hotel.

Yeah. It would have been cheaper. Maybe. It would have been cheaper because everything is rolled into that that fee. Airbnbs are outrageous.

Right. They are ridiculously

expensive. It's like you go on Airbnb right now and you find, oh, look at that. It's only $50 a night. It's $50 a night plus a $300 cleaning fee plus a $75

administrative fee. Plus, do you want digital key fee? Plus,

do you want lawn laundry service fee? And Okay.

No. But that's how it is now. They have made Airbnb.

Airbnb's used to be awesome. Why stay in a hotel when I can get me a cheap Airbnb?

Bob and Nancy over here, they just wanna sell a room

to we rent out a room,

and it's cheaper.

Lindz:

Yep.

So with all of that, we occurred more we

incurred? Okay. Incurred.

Incurred?

Russ:

It's not occurred.

Lindz:

Accrued?

Russ:

Accrued probably is valid. We gathered, had more.

Lindz:

Expensive.

Russ:

Oh my.

And you're making fun of me.

Lindz:

He's always talking about swole sun for 20 minutes. Cool.

Russ:

The sun is swole.

Lindz:

It had more cost than we originally thought, and it did put us in a little bit of a hole.

If you never heard of Dave Ramsey,

I just want to take 10 seconds and explain who he is, what he is, what he told us, not specifically us, but tells people He came over and talked to us directly. That would be nice.

However,

he is a financial

individual. He has his own podcast. He has books. He explains to people a way

to get out of debt.

And

all of the steps include essentially a snowball effect.

So what you're supposed to do first is you're supposed to have a $1,000 emergency fund stored away in savings.

Once you have that and you're supposed to collect that as quickly as possible, put it away, don't touch it. Even recommends putting it into cash and hiding it somewhere in your house. It's harder to spend that way. That's step 1. Step 2 is to take your smallest

total debt. Say you have $1,000,

$5,000, $10,000.

Those are your three

things of debt.

You're supposed to tackle the first one. The smallest one. The smallest one with as much money

as you can spare month to month. Instead of doing just the minimum monthly payment,

you attack it. You hit it with all all you can while still making monthly payments And on your 5,010,000.

Russ:

And turn off, like,

he recommends if you have debt, you should be turning off your

401 k stuff too, doesn't he? Yes. He said you can't afford to save if you got debt. Yep. Scorched earth is his method, essentially. You are putting everything,

Lindz:

every single cent you have

into

resolving your debt. Mhmm. So you attack the first one. Once that first one's paid off, everything that you were putting in a monthly payment against that,

you're going to take it and put it into your next highest debt. So we're now on to the 5,000.

So whatever your monthly payment was, plus whatever you were putting against the 1,000,

Russ:

you're now putting against the 5,000 and you attack it. Yeah. And it's just a snowball effect. Yeah. You're paying more and more and more and more over time.

Lindz:

Exactly.

So that's the Dave Ramsey method. There's more methods to that or there's more steps to that after

that deal. You don't wanna touch your mortgage at first. You're dealing with all of your

not mortgage debt at first. Cars, credit cards, personal loans, things of that nature. And then he goes on to tell you how to deal with all the other things like mortgage and saving and all that. We're not there yet. Oh, that's,

Russ:

we can talk a little bit about the envelope system that he, he recommends.

Normally, it's done with cash,

but we know cash

essentially doesn't exist anymore.

The envelope system is you have these envelopes set out with labels on them.

So groceries,

x amount of dollars per month. You stuff that x amount of dollars

into that envelope for groceries

and so on and so forth. Everything else can have an envelope, but you have to stick with these envelopes.

So if you have $500

in groceries, once you hit that that that $500

during the month,

you don't go to envelope for cars.

Right. And take out money for that. Right? And put it in groceries. You don't do that. You have to essentially rewire your brain

to set aside you're you're pre budgeting.

Mhmm. Before you spend money,

you are budgeting it. Yep. And you cannot

Lindz:

touch the other envelopes. Every dollar has a purpose.

Russ:

Exactly. So

once you get out of debt, you will have a savings envelope. Yep. But we're not there yet, obviously. But the problem with that method for us was it was all based on cash. Right. Cash is impossible.

Nobody pays cash anymore.

I'm not trying to go to the bank every 2 weeks to pull out cash to do this envelope thing. How do you do online purchases with cash? Things like that. We found that we found a solution to that and it's called Qube, q

u b e. Good job. And it's a digital

cash envelope system.

It's the same exact method. They actually call them cubes, though, I guess, because Dave Ramsey would probably drop the hammer on them if

they,

they tried to steal the envelope thing, but it's essentially a digital envelope system that you

once you get paid,

you then divvy up your

funds into a into a cube

Lindz:

to give your dollars purpose. It's just like a bank account. Yeah. That's all it is. Our paychecks are being ACH'd

into

what they call the cloud.

Russ:

Yeah. It's essentially the overarching

bank account that you then

funnel funds to each one of your cubes. Right. So you're pre budgeting.

You try to spend some if you try to spend money without having it in a cube,

it will literally decline it. Yep.

You can't do it. Yep. It's nuts.

But it works awesome.

Lindz:

Yep. For us, we literally have everything into a cube. Anything that we're going to spend money on as far

as bills go, has its Cube, has its monthly payment, and we're doing the snowball Dave Ramsey effect for it. Yes.

Anything that's

spending that isn't

bills,

monthly bills,

so groceries, gas,

eating out. We do that way too much. It still has its own cube. It still has its own cube,

Russ:

but that you have to actually have enough funds in there and you have to physically open it. Yeah. You have to click a button on your app Yep. Before you try to spend money. So those are, like, in person purchases have a separate

system of cubes

that you can use. Now the bills because bills might come out at different times,

and you obviously don't you're not gonna remember, oh, shit. I gotta open this cube at 12 o'clock or midnight because

t mobile's gonna take my take my money. Yep. These cubes are they're essentially automatic,

but they still have to be funded. The bill cubes. Yes. The bill cubes have to be funded. And if they don't have enough, they will get declined. They will get declined.

So you have to stay up to date and you actually have to keep an eye on your money. It's

it's not like going to the store and swiping a credit card and just, I'll fucking pay for it later. No. You need to do it now. Yep. You need to be mindful

Lindz:

about it now. Yeah. So

Russ:

all this to say that

we

refinanced credit card debt. Yep. We got rid of Consolidated. We consolidated credit card debt. We've got a personal loan, so lower interest,

and it's all in one payment,

and we have officially

turned off and locked our credit cards.

I don't know. I know the debt's not gone. Right.

It's still there, and we're still making a payment, but we know what the payment is. Yep. And

we

I I just feel like the light at the end of the tunnel is opening up because now we are

knowing what we're buying,

and we know we have the funds for it. Yep.

Lindz:

And we can pay off our debt, tackle it with all the force

Russ:

of our extra money. Exactly. It's just it's, it's almost a liberating feeling. There's such a huge weight on your shoulder when you have

a lot of debt. Yes. Especially when it's credit card debt and you get that interest

attached to it and you see that every single month, you're like, holy

shit.

Lindz:

Yep. That's a lot of money. It's like you're not making a dent even when you're dropping

Russ:

Yeah.

100 of dollars on it. And it and it just the interest smacks you in the face every single month. Yep.

But yeah. So we re refinance, got a personal loan, and we're working on paying off all that credit card debt through a personal loan, and we've locked them. And we are

being much more disciplined. We we physically cannot use our credit cards anymore. Yep. They have been locked. We have removed the apps from our phones, so we cannot unlock them.

We're just

full steam ahead with the snowball effect.

Lindz:

Yep.

We'll get there.

I think by this time. Yeah. I think give it

Russ:

maybe 2 years, and we will have completed the snowball. Oh, that's if we don't that's if we continue to pay what we're paying now. If we get raises, I think we should dump it in. For sure. Yep. I agree.

Totally off topic. I don't I like that kind of stuff though because it's

Lindz:

it's real life, and inflation and things like that didn't help. No. I meant my next topic was totally off topic. No. I like the cube

Ramsey discussion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Russ:

I don't do we have enough time for another topic? We do. You ready? Yeah.

Lindz:

Did you

hear about

the double decker airplane seats?

Yeah. I did. Yeah? I did. Have you actually seen the picture of them? Yes. Do they look stupid to you? No.

Why?

Because if that remove if that gives me extra leg room, then fucking give it to me. Okay. It gives you extra leg room, but you literally have no space in front of your chest or your face. That's not true.

Russ:

It was big.

Lindz:

No. Yes. It was. Okay. We'll have to look at a different picture then because I don't think you're looking at the right one. I was. I was looking at the double decker picture and leg room. It it

Russ:

the only thing I don't like is if you're on the bottom level.

People up to to top level fart,

and that air might push it right in your eyes. You were walking around with binko. Close to your face. Oh, no. I don't I didn't see it. I didn't notice it being any closer to my face than a standard airplane seat.

Lindz:

No. It's way closer. I'll have to show you what I was looking at then because I don't think you're looking at the right thing. But my point in this,

did you also recently hear about the individual who had diarrhea

on a plane

so bad that it was up and down the aisles and they had to land the plane in an emergency

evacuation.

Because of diarrhea. Because this person had diarrhea up and down the aisle. Imagine double decker seats

and this person being above you. Oh,

Russ:

I'm confused. How do you have so much diarrhea inside of you that

it goes up and down the aisle? I don't know. Okay?

Lindz:

But this does this right here is just proving the case against these double decker airplane seats. I don't know. Have you seen the pictures of the people, like,

Russ:

they'll be sitting in a seat and the lady in front of them will have their hair over their seat into their tray? Yeah.

Lindz:

That is fucked up, man. I agree. They shouldn't do that, but that's hair isn't as bad to me as someone's

bowel movement. No. I guess I'm more talking about it because of just the nightmare of plane travel. In general? Yeah. Because people are dicks. Right. I saw one where this person was sitting behind someone and had their feet under their seat all the way to where the other person's seat is. Feet. Yeah. They poured water

Russ:

on the feet. And that's valid.

Lindz:

I guess, to an extent. But You're

Russ:

getting up in people's personal space.

Everybody's seat sucks on here except the business people. You know, business class, a little bit better. Barely. But

so don't make it worse for the other people that are sitting around you. Mhmm. Having your hair go over your chair and into somebody else's food tray and where their drink is sitting?

Guess what?

Your hair is going in my Coke.

I'm putting it in there and you're gonna be pissed at me

because this is my space. I'm

I am what?

It is.

Lindz:

Don't pop his bubble.

Russ:

No. I'm serious. I know.

You have your put your hair in your space and leave it. You're sleeping throughout the airplane flight airplane flight. The flight, anyway. That has never happened to me before,

but if it does oh, yeah. But if something like that does, I'd I would've done the same thing and pour water on their feet or something. I would've done the exact same thing.

Because how do you what what else do you do? You turn around and say, can you move your feet? They're gonna be like, fuck you. You know what I mean? They're gonna get mad. So how about I just

pour water on you?

Oops.

My bad.

It's just annoying.

Lindz:

That was a lot.

Russ:

Yeah.

Typical week in

in United States of America.

Lindz:

Always fun. Hamster wheels and pub pub subs that suck. Have researched more and see if he said why he was trying to do it.

Why not? I I bet you that's his answer. Exactly.

Russ:

To say I did? Exactly. I I was the first person to cross the Atlantic in a hamster wheel, bitches.

If if I make it. Florida man. That's right. Love you.

Lindz:

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Russ:

Again, thank you for listening, and we hope to have you back next week.

Lindz:

It's what you do. Thanks, you