Do you ever feel as though there's an unholy alliance between theme parks and your wallet? How about when you're trying to navigate the labyrinthine world of Disney's new Genie Plus lightning lane system while nursing a mild case of Amazon packaging...
Do you ever feel as though there's an unholy alliance between theme parks and your wallet? How about when you're trying to navigate the labyrinthine world of Disney's new Genie Plus lightning lane system while nursing a mild case of Amazon packaging anxiety? Join us as we share our rollercoaster ride of an adventure at Disney World and discuss the various bumps along the way. As parents, nothing beats the joy of seeing your child's eyes widen in awe as they meet their favorite princess at Disney's Magic Kingdom. However, the magic fades slightly when you're facing the daunting queues.
We also venture into the chaos and excitement of the holiday season, sharing our woes about potential gift spoiler alerts thanks to Amazon's packaging system. And now, for something completely different - let's talk about alcohol, company events, and the boundaries that sometimes blur. It's the season of holiday parties, and we've all had our share of embarrassing moments. We break down the hilarious and mortifying things that can happen, all while dissecting the thin line between fun and liability.
In a twist, we also delve into the world of social media clout chasing, exploring its impact on individuals and the community. Join us on this wild ride as we navigate the highs and lows of Disney, holiday season, company parties, and the impact of social media. ---
Timestamps:
(00:00:01) Alcohol at company holiday parties
(00:23:03) Liability and consequences of alcohol at company parties
(00:29:38) Opinions on alcohol at company holiday parties
(00:32:39) Embarrassing dancing at work events
(00:33:43) People stumbling or falling
(00:33:52) Shoes removed at parties
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00:01 - Alcohol at company holiday parties
23:03 - Liability and consequences of alcohol at company parties
29:38 - Opinions on alcohol at company holiday parties
32:39 - Embarrassing dancing at work events
33:43 - People stumbling or falling
33:52 - Shoes removed at parties
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I'm sore. Me too. Disney
is not supposed to be a workout.
Lindz:Well, you said generalizing on your phone, it was how many steps did we take?
Russ:Well, it said, like, 20 something 1,000, but I'm pretty sure it was more than that. It had to have been. I mean, well,
yeah. Be well, you're standing there a lot too, though.
True. Yeah. Standing in lines. Standing in line, and then you're standing for some of the attractions, you stand there for a while
as part of the attraction, which is torture,
and I'm not doing that again unless I get a hover round. Would you stop? I'm doing it next year. No. Because they get VIP treatment too.
Lindz:To an extent, I'd say. Like, they do have
to wait, it seems, a little longer.
Like, people with accessibility issues
have to, like, almost be queued differently
than people who don't have accessibility
issues.
So it's like they pause the whole ride,
Russ:and it's almost like, you know That's because they gotta load them and unload them, so they have to pause. But the thing is, though, is on a couple of rides that we had, we had people with
hover rounds
that
they just essentially skipped a line. Yeah. I was like, oh, no, man. This is messed up. They get to sit down and skip the fucking line? Well, they have to get off their hover around at a point and then go into the queue, a separate queue, but still. And so their
Lindz:their accessibility
issues are, you know, from the point that they get off until the point that they have to get on the ride. Okay. So
Russ:Do they check
to make sure all these people have accessibility
issues?
Lindz:Well, I'm sure they when you buy the ticket,
Russ:but it seems like a perk.
Lindz:Well, okay. But you have lightning lane. Let's be clear. Yeah. I know. But we have to pay extra for that shit. I would never in a 1000000 years go to Disney without it. And I think I told you back when I went when I was 10 years old, so dear god, 20 some years ago at this point,
we had
a different version of Lightning Lane, and I can't remember what it was called. But essentially, we skipped the whole line. It was like a VIP line.
Russ:Right. Right. And we went straight to the front every single time. Yeah. But now that it's not like that, it's kind of
I don't know. It it makes sense because how popular Disney is. You obviously can't have a VIP line anymore because
everyone would just pay that, and then your VIP line is long. Right. So they had to make it to where
that lightning lane line or your VIP line stayed short. So they do this, like, virtual
You. You sign up for a ride,
and then you have to show up to that ride within
x amount of time. Exactly. Give you, like, a whole hour to show up, and then you get to skip the standard line. Mhmm.
But my issue
is
there was 2 rides, Tron
Yeah. And the 7 Dwarfs.
Mhmm. They were try we already paid for this Did you say we went to Magic Kingdom? Dear goodness. Did we say What? Okay. We went to We went to Magic Kingdom. This year. Yeah. Yes. Yep. Well, what really kinda ticked me off about this whole trip, though, was those 2 rides in particular, 7 dwarfs, Tron,
they we had paid for this lightning lane thing for the whole day. It's Genie Plus, I think, is what it's called. Right.
And then they were trying to nickel and dime us for lightning lanes for those two rides. Yep. You could pay $40 a person for Tron,
$40
a person. I thought it was 20. No. Well I think it was 20, but it was 20 me, 20 you. Okay. Yes. Okay. The total 40. $20 a person to ride a ride in which you've already paid a 500 something dollar ticket. Well, it was $500
for your well, 500 plus for me, you, and our daughter to go. Which is the price we pay, but and then they're trying to charge another $20 if you wanna ride Tron. Well, and it was
70 or $80 for the Genie Plus. So it's like yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's nickel and dime. And then the same situation for the 7 dwarfs. It was an extra $10 a person Right. To get to get in the lightning lane for that. I'm like But I think that's based on demand, though. I a 100%,
but that's
then I don't know. I don't know how you do it. There's there were only 2 rides at least
Lindz:at our day when we went that had that extra fee, which was the 7 Dwarves and the
Russ:Tron ride. Why are you flicking me off? Sorry. I'm counting
Lindz:on my fingers.
So those two rides were the only ones that had the extra fee, and I think it's because their queue line, like, the standby line, that's what they call it. Yes. Standby. In lightning lane or you're in standby. And the standby lane
was over 60 minutes for either of those rides. Okay. It's like based on demand.
But they should Okay. You you wanna get to the front of the line? Gotta pay money. They should still let you
join the lightning lane if even if it's going to be a while. They shouldn't charge you for that. Well, then they also had the virtual queue. So they had 3 options. Right? At least for Tron. I don't remember if they had it for Oh, Tron, if you didn't jump on that within, like, 30 seconds, you still couldn't ride it. Right. But the virtual queue, like, you didn't have to pay anything. So they did give you 3 options for Tron.
Russ:The but it's so popular because it's newer. Right. It's brand new, and it looks kinda cool. It really does. It it looks like you're on a motorcycle, like in the Tron movie where your the light cycles is I think it's what it's called. Tron light cycle. I don't think I would have been happy, though, riding it during the day.
No. I don't know because a lot of it's inside. That that last part is outside, and it's short. Because I've watched the GoPro footage of it because I'm like, alright. It's so bad.
Lindz:But, also, our kiddo isn't tall enough to ride it just yet, Tron, specifically. So
It was a take turns issue or thing, so it didn't make sense anyway. Yeah. There was a couple logistic items, but I get your point. Like, they they already paid a fee, and then we paid another fee. Now you wanna pay a 3rd fee. Right. And, well and then,
Russ:I mean, it's December, so we know this,
but there was an event at Magic Kingdom
that started at 6 PM,
Lindz:so they kicked all of us peasants out of the park. No. Back up though, because think about this. I need I need you to I need you to help me grasp
how huge this is because
we had a regular general mission ticket. And it was from My ass, my hoppies. And
it was from 8 AM until 6 PM. And that meant we had access to the Magic Kingdom Park. Right? Yeah. 8 AM, 6 PM. Well, then at 6 PM I mean, you can't just vacate the whole park. Right? So they start having people come out with wands and checking people for special wristbands.
For a second event that was gonna happen
from 6 PM till 10 PM, I believe, was the cutoff time. And that was Mickey's
very Merry Christmas parade or something like that. Party. I think. Yeah. Something like that. So
you use they, as in Disney,
sold that park from 8 AM to 6 PM for one ticket and then sold it again Right. For 6 PM to 10 PM.
And that ticket was the same price as the general admission for the for the whole day. Well and you know what also really ticked me off about that? Think about the money though. Oh, I know. It's they double dipped
Russ:for sure.
And you know that's probably every weekend
or maybe even every day
for
the month of December.
But it's probably for October too because they have the spooky thing. Yeah. Right. So they're doing that all the time. They're making a killing off of
one day of a regular park day turns into 2 days for them. Right.
Lindz:And there was they said that the evening event was sold out. Yeah. We couldn't. We if we wanted to stay, we could not. Right. So from the 6 to 10,
you're telling me it's sold out for 4 hours.
Russ:Why would you pay that much money for those 4 hours? I'm I'm Well, okay. So mind boggled by this. I don't know. I feel like it would be cool to go see because it's a huge fireworks show. They were they were doing testing while we were there,
and
I think it would just be a different experience because they all get to access all the rides like we did that night, which would be kinda neat.
But one thing that really ticked me off about this whole situation,
they kick us out at 6 and the other event starts at 6. Right. The problem with that is
they shut
the walkways down in the whole park.
Well, certain walkways. Yes. Yeah. But that was the way that we could have gone and made it
out of the park faster.
Mhmm. But they kept
like, they closed off portions of the park for the party or for the Christmas party guest. Right. And I'm like, okay. That's messed up. How about instead of you doing that, you say you guys get out at 6. Our event starts at 7.
Keep the whole park opened,
and then
let us get out in a way that we're not all cramming in the same areas because there was one way to get out. That was it. Mhmm. One way. So everybody that didn't have that 6 to 11 or 10 ticket,
they were all trying to leave in the same area. Right. It was a nightmare.
Yeah. It made me angry because it was like
It made you what? It made me angry.
Well, it's it just it was kind of to me, it was like, really, you guys couldn't give us,
you know, start their event later and maybe stay open an hour later Mhmm. Or even kick us out at 5. Right. Kick us out of 5. Take that 5 to 6 hour
to prep and get all of us out. And then any stragglers, that's on them. Right. You know what I mean? Well, let's be honest, though. We went from one ride and tried to go on another right around that 6 o'clock mark, and they were already checking wristbands. Yeah. And that's fine because and then that's our fault. Mhmm. But
we left at 6,
and everything was already closed. Walkways were closed. Yep. We had to go one route, and then we were like, where do we go? We're you know?
I mean, obviously, there's a bunch of people there directing us, but it was like And they were kind of like, well, the park shut down at 6. You need to head towards the exit. Head towards the teacups, take a laugh, do a back flip, and somersault, and leave.
I'm like It was. It was very direct. Yeah. Like, Time for you to leave. They were being kinda buttholes. I was like, man, Disney's supposed to be this happy place. Just y'all y'all ain't happy.
Lindz:Okay. So that's kind of the interesting part of the trip. I mean, there really weren't many negatives, though. Like, other than, I think, maybe trying to exit the park. That was bad, though. That really
Russ:fucking pissed me off. Agreed.
Lindz:But then, I think everything else was really good. Like, our daughter is turning 9 here in a couple of days. Yes. And 47 years. And we always said because
shush.
We always said that because her birthday is a week before Christmas that we would take her on a trip. Yeah. We're not we don't buy her birthday gifts. We do a big
trip. Yep. Because she's gonna get gifts the next week. Right. So Santa Claus is coming to town. Exactly. So no point in us, you know, flooding her with gifts. Let's go on a trip. So
Russ:back in Virginia, we did Great Wolf Lodge in Williamsburg. Yep. Awesome. We love doing that too because we got to stay. It was a little bit easier instead of
driving to Orlando
or whatever. We drove to Williamsburg.
Stayed a couple nights. Stayed a couple nights and then left. It was a lot nicer because everything that's the other cool thing about Great Wolf too.
Everything's on-site just like Disney. Mhmm. You don't have to leave.
Lindz:Right. Disney's more expensive, so we haven't been staying yet. But, hopefully, once we get our finances in order, that can be what we do. But going to my point here Thanks, cube.
Going to my point here is she's almost 9, and I think this is the perfect age to have gone to Magic Kingdom.
And I say that because
not only is she able to ride most things and she
is interactive with most things,
but she also has favorite things. Right? Yes. She loves Rapunzel. Oh, yeah. She's
Russ:her Tangled,
I don't know if she would tell you that's her favorite movie
or her favorite princess
Lindz:or whatever. No. She said said it when we were there. I know. Maybe just, like, you know, it's pretty bad. Honeymoon type deal. Like,
Russ:you know, but
I but we know that that's what it is because she's always loved Tangled, the movie. Yep. She's always had our daughter has long blonde hair, so she just
loves Rapunzel. That's the one that she identifies with, and she's nuts.
Lindz:So On par. On par. But, anyway,
so for her to meet all these princesses,
like, while we were there, literally, we met all of them. Like, I think there's maybe 2 or 3
okay. I guess maybe 4 that we didn't see. Snow White, Jasmine, and Elsa and Anna. We didn't see those 4. Well But Yeah. Right. We didn't see we have not seen them at all yet. No. We haven't seen those 4 at all yet. And Elsa and Anna, she would lose her shit over to, though. I think so. Yeah. But regardless, we saw Cinderella,
Tiana, we saw Rapunzel, we saw
Russ:Elena of Avalor. Elena.
Lindz:That's how she used to say it. Yeah. Elena of Avalor.
We saw Belle. I mean Ariel? Ariel. We saw Ariel.
So in each one, you could just see how excited she was.
Russ:She was so happy to be meeting them. Yeah. And I think I think that's the other reason
why Rapunzel sticks with her is Rapunzel's, like,
I don't know, she's normal. Uh-huh. You know what I mean? Like,
she
kinda joking and all that stuff. All the other ones were very I mean, they're actors
Yep. In character,
and they stay true to their character, so they're they're talking like princesses
to Paul proper, and I'm like,
I need some tea.
Lindz:But Rapunzel, she did. She went and grabbed her hand, and they were taking pictures together, gave her a big hug. So I I think this was the perfect age to go to Magic Kingdom. That is why
Russ:that place is called Magic Kingdom because them, like,
especially if you have a little girl
that loves Disney princesses. She
she she did. She truly lost her shit. I did too. Yeah. I I know you did. You got teary eyed a couple of times. I'm like, really? I'm living literally living out my childhood dreams with my daughter. Like, that's the moment I had. And you your favorite movie of all time is Beauty and the Beast. Beauty and the Beast. So 100%.
But I still don't know. How would you cry?
Lindz:Okay. Look. I have a Bonnie jean. It is hereditary.
We've talked about this before with my cousin, Mandy. Oh my god. She was on our podcast previously. It's in my genes. I can't help it. No. Okay. It has gotten worse as I've gotten older. I do I did like it. I thought they were cool.
Russ:The princesses and stuff, they stayed in character. It's not cheesy like the, you know, you see the, like what is it? Chuck E. Cheese. You go in there, you're like, oh, look at it. Creepy as hell. No. These these are on point.
Mhmm.
They have accents like the
the characters in the movies like Tiana.
She kinda has that southern Louisiana accent. Yep. She did very well with that. She talked about food Mhmm. Which was Tiana's thing in princess and the frog. Look at me. I'm throwing out facts here
Lindz:about Disney. Disney princesses. I'm so proud.
Russ:But it was good. I did like it. I liked it for her,
but
we've been to Epcot, Animal Kingdom,
Lindz:and Magic Kingdom now. Animal Kingdom was my favorite. So far. So far. Yes. So far. We have all the other parks, including Universal to do. So we have all the things to do in the world right now, but
for me, Magic Kingdom has been my favorite thus far. Well, you got teary eyed because you saw Belle.
I can't help it.
I'm telling you, living these moments with my daughter is
Russ:insane. Well, it makes it better Yeah. Because you get to see her enjoyment. I mean, you went down there when you
Lindz:were her age. Yeah. But do you remember it like this? No. I remember it for sure, but I didn't get to see any of the Disney princesses. I saw the castle, and that was awesome. I swear I saw Tinker Bell go across the sky, but I was 10 years old. So who knows? LSD is not good. Schizophrenia. Who knows?
Russ:Well, we know you have that.
Lindz:I do not. Yeah. Well, yesterday, you said did you see that run across the yard? I was like, what? Yeah. I checked on our cameras. There was nothing there. Yeah. She had to look. She looked at the cameras.
Just checking reality here.
Russ:But, I mean, overall, I think it was a really good trip. It was good. My legs hurt still. Yeah. It's been a couple of days and my legs still hurt, and that's what's crazy. I recommend you get really good shoes. Mhmm. Get good insoles,
Take breaks, frequent breaks. We didn't even it wasn't even a hot day, but
we still were, like, getting sweaty,
heat exhaustion exhaustion
exhaustion. I don't know about heat exhaustion. Well, when we were inside in some of those places, they're a little stuffy. Oh, yes. For sure. I was getting a little, like, oh. Like, I was making sure when we were standing in lines and stuff that my knees were bent. Mhmm. I kept checking. I kept looking at our kid to do the same thing, make sure, like, hey. Are you alright?
Because you locked them knees. It's over. I'm going down in the line. Oh, yeah. Going down in the line. Well, maybe that's how you get that VIP access. Would you stop?
Lindz:Well, so this time of year, you know, we've talked about it being all about, you know, Christmas and our daughter's birthday. And
every time I buy something right now from Amazon,
I have so much anxiety. I have. Me too. Tell you.
Russ:So the I think part of this problem Hold on. Can I frame the problem? Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. So
Lindz:from Amazon,
you buy packages. Right? And they come in boxes. Usually an Amazon box with a big smile on it. Right.
That's what you would hope to see, especially this time of year.
Russ:Right. Now,
Lindz:when you purchase things
and they're supposed to be from a specific person,
ho ho. Yes. And they don't come that way. It's jeopardy. Right? It's in jeopardy of being seen. And
I came home the other night from a work event, and we'll get to that here in just a second. But there was a package at the front door, and it was not the smiley face.
Russ:Right. It was in manufacturer's packaging Exactly. Which says what it is on the inside of the box.
Lindz:Outside of the box. No. I know. It says what's on the inside of the box. The outside the outside says what's on the inside. Yes.
Russ:This is a science.
Lindz:Love it. Good job. And we have, you know, a bunch of our daughter's friends in the neighborhood. And if they would have seen
Russ:that They would have blabbed. It would have been over. I mean, to I wouldn't blame them. Right. Hey, you got this?
What? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? But yeah. So, I think part of that problem though
is we live next to a hub.
Okay. Amazon hubs are
I've they're insane. They're all over the place down here in Florida. Mhmm. Everywhere. So We're a port. We're one big port. Right. There there's hubs here.
And I think they
don't package stuff really well because it's not really shipping.
It's from the hub to the house. It's a bunch of bullshit. I agree, but I'm saying I think that's why they don't really repackage stuff because they end up just
Lindz:it it's literally on a truck for a half hour. And I I hear what you're saying, but it's the time of year. I know. You were not dumb. They should know. Let's be clear. They should know, like,
Russ:anything that's bought right now might be for that unless it's something inappropriate.
Lindz:Uh-huh. Any anything is Well, even the inappropriate. It depends on what you do. Get your king gone. Have at it. Yeah. But you don't,
Russ:normally adults
don't
talk about ho ho ho much.
Know what I'm saying?
Lindz:Because you're talking about kink
and
Russ:No. I'm I'm trying not to I'm trying to be creepy here. H o or h o e because we use our HO. HO.
Lindz:I get it. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Russ:So it it it's not that big of a deal. It was poor timing. It was.
This podcast has turned x rated
in the span of 30 seconds. Yep. That's okay. But, yeah. I mean, I I don't know. I think it's I do think it's messed up. They should absolutely
put it in a freaking trash bag. Right. Something.
Lindz:Well, so you have the option to, like, mark it as a gift. Right? Yeah. But what are they gonna do? They're gonna tape a gift receipt to the side of it. Right. Exactly. It's like, what would that change? Nothing. I actually I think I brought that up to one of my friends and that's what they said. We'll mark it as a gift and then they have to cover it up. It's like, okay, but, hey, I'm paying $5 extra for them to wrap it, and all they do is put a big bag on it. And then what? They're gonna put it in another box, maybe? Why couldn't you do that originally?
Russ:I don't know. I mean, they're going to say we're being ecologically
or whatever.
Oh, while ruining Christmas. Environmentally friendly Yeah. Santa Claus. His sleigh runs on
reindeer. That is not green energy. And reindeer fart. So So we're gonna get Bad for the ozone. Santa Claus is 75100
top dollar tax
break for a Tesla.
Lindz:Oh, wouldn't that be cool? Can't ride see Santa riding in the Tesla. Satana. Satana.
Satana.
Okay. Good music.
Russ:So Santana, not Satana. That sounds satanic.
Lindz:You need to go to bed. Yeah. I think so. That's where we're at tonight.
So
along the lines again of holidays, right, we
are at a point where a lot of companies are having holiday parties. Yes.
And a lot of people go to those and typically,
there's alcohol.
I wanted to talk about this. I wanna see what your opinion is because here at Unholy Union, we have
our own opinions. We are married to our opinions,
not necessarily to each other, but to their opinion. No. I'm just kidding. What? I don't know. I need to go to bed. Okay. So
holiday parties. First of all,
do you think that there should be
alcohol, either open bar or otherwise, at company
holiday parties?
Russ:I
don't care.
I don't think
I think if you're working at a place and you're an adult, then
you should be able to make the decision whether or not to drink alcohol.
Lindz:Well, twofold. Right? So do you think the company should allow it? And if the company does allow it, do you think the person
should drink?
Russ:If the company allows it, I think the person can if they want. Should the company allow it at all? Should they allow
Lindz:it? Yeah. Okay. Either Open Bar or Cash Bar?
Russ:Whatever you want. I don't care. I don't care.
Lindz:Okay. So you don't think it's a problem for the company to allow alcohol at the party,
and you don't think it's a problem
for a person to decide whether or not they want the alcohol.
Russ:Right. I think if you're an adult, you should be able to make decisions for yourself. Whether or not you act a fool, that's different. Okay. And I do think
that if you are
acting a fool,
like, really bad,
I think you should be able to get fired.
Lindz:Interesting.
Do you think that if a company provides alcohol
and the worker decides that they're going to partake,
and they maybe go too far,
that the company should be held liable?
The company would be held liable. Well, I'm sorry. The person should be held liable. Wrong way. Flip it. Reverse it. The person who partook
Russ:and took it overboard Yes. Know your limits.
Lindz:Should be held liable and lose their job.
Russ:It depends on what they do.
Mhmm. But if it's something really bad, like, if they got up on stage and they started slinging dong around,
you're fired
Lindz:Okay. Immediately.
Russ:Or
if
2 workers started sleeping together and then one got pregnant and it got out,
then, yeah, you're probably fired.
Lindz:So you think that the person
would get fired or should get fired depending on what they do Correct. If the company allows it?
Yeah.
Russ:Interesting. I think that
as a company,
I trust you as an employee
to make good decisions.
Alcohol
is
it can be bad, but it can also be fun as long as you
don't
overdo it, which I am one that will overdo it and that's why I don't drink anymore.
Lindz:Fair point.
Russ:So I have set my own limit to 0.
Lindz:I would push back on that. I think that a company
should not allow it. Why not? I think that I mean, if it's
let me say this. If it is a corporation
and you have thousands of employees,
do not allow it.
If it is a mom and pop shop, maybe
10 employees
at their discretion, as long as they know their employees. Right?
Big companies like that,
allowing employees to drink at a company sponsored event
is a liability waiting to happen.
Like, it doesn't make sense to allow people
to drink at a work function. It doesn't make sense. Well, I think I I
Russ:I wonder if, say,
a person at a work party got drunk, drove home, crashed into somebody, killed somebody, who would be responsible then? Obviously, the person driving would be, but
Lindz:Could they sue the company? Right. Could they say,
Russ:well, my company
over gay you you know, they overgave me. I'll talk. Served me. Yeah. They over served me. So I didn't
Lindz:I didn't know. And it's not like you sign anything when you go into these
Russ:company events. Yeah. I don't know. I I wouldn't as a if I was a company owner, I don't know if I would allow it, but I don't
I don't think you should stop. I don't know. It's hard for me. I go I'm kinda wishy washy on it because I can see bad things, but I can also see
that if you host a holiday party and you don't serve alcohol, there's gonna be 2 and a half people show up. Well, I also think I'm slightly biased because, like, what you said, right, we don't really drink anymore. No. We we I mean, even if I go to a party like that, I might have one. Right. I'm not gonna say I'm
complete straightedge.
No. I'll drink a beer every once in a while Mhmm. With dinner. You know, sometimes beer goes good with a good juicy steak,
but
I'm not I won't I usually won't drink more than that one.
Now. Now. Now. Correct. Yes. I used to get fucking hammered. Yeah. Let's be clear. Right.
Lindz:Again, my point is, like, the liability to the company, it just doesn't seem worth it. And
why do people
automatically associate, and here comes my bias, having a good time with alcohol?
Russ:Like, I don't understand why those have to go hand in hand. A lot of people get I think because a lot of people get annoyed
with people who are drinking when they're not drinking.
So it kind of paints a negative picture for the non drinkers.
Like, I don't wanna go to that because
everybody's gonna be drinking or
the drinking pee it's weird. It's yeah. It's twofold. Right? It's like, if I go to a party and I'm the only one not drinking,
am I gonna have fun?
You can.
Absolutely. Certainly can. You look at them and you think I am so happy I'm not gonna feel like shit tomorrow.
You guys are gonna wake up and your eyes aren't gonna be able to open all the way and your mouth is gonna taste like dog shit? Yep. My my company had it on a Thursday.
On what they were thinking and then had an open bar. What? Yeah. Well, I I but at the same time, like I said, I go I'm wishy washy on it because I feel like
if they provide it,
you as a worker or employee,
you have to know your limit.
Lindz:It's not their fault to monitor you like a baby. I agree a 100%. And that's why I think smaller companies could probably monitor it more than a large corporation.
But get this, so alcohol.org.
Oh, that's nice. Is the website I'm on.
And the percentage of employees who drink at office parties, guess the percentage out of a 100 of employees who drink at office parties. All of them.
No. 88%.
Russ:I was gonna say 9. Percent don't drink.
Lindz:Thought that was pretty interesting.
Now let's guess the average number of drinks consumed at office holiday parties. 4.
No.
What is it? I would say it's closer to 3.
Oh, see, that's not that bad. Listen to this. They're broken down by gender
and by alcohol type.
Russ:Men drink all of it.
Lindz:No.
So
women drink 2.3
glasses of wine versus men at 2.6.
Women drink 2.6
glasses of a cocktail or mixed drink versus men at 3.5.
Russ:More men drink mixed drinks? Mhmm. Alright.
Men.
Drop your balls, bro. It could be a whiskey sour. Y'all drinking them strawberry daiquiris over there. I am pissed at you. Cosmos.
And then last, for beer. Can I get a vodka crown?
Lindz:Women
drink 3.1 beers whereas men drink 3.6.
To me, at a holiday party, literally literally, this is what happened with me.
We went from work and I didn't,
I live kind of far away, so I had to stay at work until 5,
and then the party started at 6.
It was at a hotel, so me and my coworker went to the bar at the hotel before the party started and just had a glass of wine.
I had one glass of wine. Mhmm.
I don't drink,
like, ever anymore.
Russ:I was feeling that one glass of wine. Oh, yeah. See, that's the thing too is if you do it and if you don't do it and then you have 1, you're like, alright. I'm good. Yep. The buzzed feeling is a fun feeling.
It can be.
Lindz:Yeah. Being buzzed, though. I'm a bad drunk. I really am. I get sick every time. Being buzzed is where that's the level of fun,
Russ:but
the problem is when you're buzzed, you're like, I wanna keep this, and your judgment's still fucked up,
and you end up drinking too much, and then you're not you're not buzzed anymore. You are drunk.
Mhmm. And that's when you wake up feeling like a butthole.
Lindz:Right.
But I I don't know. I just I seriously feel
like holiday parties can be fun without the alcohol. I agree. It doesn't.
So I also wanna do this last one here. The percentage of employees who've witnessed each action, each embarrassing
party foul at an office holiday party.
Can you guess what the top 3 are? Party fouls? At a holiday party, office holiday party. Yep.
Russ:Being what is it? Promiscuous
with someone at work?
Lindz:That was number 5. Okay.
Russ:Top 3. I don't know.
Lindz:Inappropriate
Russ:things said is number 1. That's every fucking day. I don't know about just a holiday party. Have you listened to the Unholy Union?
Lindz:And
this is this is me embarrassing dancing
too.
Yeah. Well, see I do that not drunk, but
Russ:Yeah. I don't I don't know why that's why is that on the list? That's not embarrassing. Who cares? Embarrassing dancing? Who cares? See, that's the thing.
Are you having fun?
Lindz:Right. But there's a time and place for things. And I think What's simple? Is one of those things Yeah.
Where you you don't do it at a work sponsored event. Same thing with
me doing the Dougie
Russ:at my work That's fine. That's not a bad dance. You're not, like, you're not twerking on
bad dancing would be like twerking on a coworker Right. In a skirt or whatever. Right.
That's bad dancing. Right. That I can see that being kind of embarrassing. You're, like, wake up and you're, like, oh, shit. Yeah. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I got close. I didn't but I didn't no. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. Last one is people stumbling or falling.
Lindz:And this is interesting, the 4th one, because you already said the 5th was coworker hook up. The 4th one is shoes removed. Why is that?
Russ:Don't most people take, like, especially women. Yeah. They take their heels off during Exactly. During a party because so they can dance and things like that. Yeah. I thought that was interesting though. Alcohol.org
sounds like they're straight edges.
Lindz:Well, yeah. It's for people who are covering alcoholics.
Russ:Oh, my bad.
Lindz:Love you. Good job.
Russ:Whoopsie.
Lindz:So with all of that, you know, there's crazy people at holiday parties, but there's also just crazy people in the world. Yeah. I know. That's that I just feel like we as a culture and as a society
Russ:have turned into a bunch of we have to have
a babysitter or
you need to make sure I don't drink too much. It's like, no, you're an adult. No. You mitigate the risk is my point. I know, but the problem with that is though, is then you start getting into this coddled
society of a bunch of babies because everybody has to have somebody not, you can't do that here. And it's like, no. Just fucking let let people make let people fuck up. Well, as long That's how you learn. As long as the company isn't liable. Right? And And how do you mitigate the liability? That that's where you don't have the alcohol, but I feel like
the company being liable is wrong.
Lindz:Okay. I can agree with that statement. You're an adult.
Russ:You should know your limit.
The bar I hate the fact that a bartender can get in trouble for overserving.
It's like,
how am I supposed to know? Right. What's the test?
Do I take you out back and do the fucking do the field sobriety test on you? Well,
Lindz:totally off topic here, but back in the day when I worked at a hotel and we did serve alcohol, you actually had to be
VABC
certified.
Right. Which meant you knew when you were over serving. How do you know?
It was the amount of drinks. It was gauging a person and their
mobility, their actions, the way they were talking.
Russ:I've been to many bars,
drank way too much,
and not one motherfucking
bar I went to
told me to stop because I was over sir or over drinking.
Not once.
And I know I had too much.
Lindz:Lots of bad bartenders out there.
Russ:No. It's not their responsibility.
That was a joke. I know, but I'm just saying it's mine Mhmm. For over drinking,
and I did not drive.
Lindz:Okay. So the point in all of that
in saying that there are still, you know, bad people out in the world is another event that happened in our lives recently. Yes.
Impacted one of our near and dear friends. And we're gonna keep it real general here just to give you the the tea as the young folks say.
Russ:The t?
Yeah. What's the t mean?
Lindz:Oh my god. Really? Testosterone?
No. T e a, the t, like you're drinking tea, gossip.
That's what they say? Tea. Yeah. What are we in Britain? Catch up with Gen z, would you? Like, you I left behind. I refuse.
Okay. So this whole event that happened, Impact, again, near a dear friend of ours,
and it all started with social media. Yes.
Russ:Our friend has a very
significant
following on
one of the social media platforms.
He's really good at it. He's consistent.
He does really good posts,
and he's got 100 of thousands of followers.
Well,
having 100 of thousands of followers also attracts bad attention. Mhmm.
And
what we call a clout chaser
posted on my buddy's page and said that he essentially fat shamed him. Right. He said, you are a big guy.
You're
unhealthy.
Get you a Peloton.
Lindz:And this person
doesn't know him from Adam. No. This
Russ:But my friend, because I I talked to him, he has no idea who this guy is. Yep. Not
never met him in his life. He this dude
and was he just was being a dick. Yep. Well, this guy got burned up because he posted on my friend's page or whatever, and,
of course, the people that follow my friend are going to defend my friend. Right.
And then he starts playing the victim. The clout chaser starts playing the victim. Yeah. The clout chaser starts playing the victim like he was the one being attacked. It's like, dude, you
you went on
my friend's public page and commented because he was like, this was a comment between 2 men.
It's like, bro,
it's not a comment between 2 men. You didn't on a public social platform. Yeah. You didn't send it to him in his DM. Shit. There you go. Good job. You sent it directly to a public post, so it was visible by the public.
And then he starts playing the victim because
this guy essentially gets destroyed.
Lindz:Mhmm. So,
Russ:eventually, it was found out that this guy owned a business. Yep.
This business got trashed Uh-huh. On all kinds of review sites, social media,
all that stuff. Yep.
Which then opened up another can of worms, but then they started bringing family members in. Mhmm. The cloud chasers. Starts
starts calling out
my friend's family members. Mhmm.
And it just it's like,
keyboard warriors are poison.
What are you doing? Just just leave
people alone. Yep. There's no reason
to go out there and act like you're some tough guy or act like you're some super fit guy
because it does it doesn't matter. You might drop dead tomorrow.
Lindz:You never know. Again, this person
has no idea what your friend has been through. I know. And he has been on a journey
of his own Correct. Regarding his health,
and he has become stronger
over the past
what? Oh, it's been 5 years?
Russ:2019.
Lindz:Jeez. Yeah. So almost almost 5 years now, he has come really far Yeah. For this person to attack him without knowing anything about him Right. It's jealousy.
It's clout chasing. Yeah. Period point blank. It is someone looking to be seen, be heard because
when you deal with toddlers, you know that even negative attention is still attention. Oh, yeah. He got attention, but I I I don't think he was expecting
Russ:to get found out. Mhmm. You know,
like, associate him with his little business. Right. Because
that kinda I think that really messed him up.
Good. I know. I agree. That's the thing. We talked about it before
that,
you know, that there shouldn't be any policing on social media. Mhmm. It should be crowdsourced.
Yep. That's what happened.
Lindz:And I think more of that needs to happen. I agree.
Russ:You act a fool. You go out and have been personally attack. That's how. Yeah. You go out and personally attack somebody that you have no idea who they are, what they've been through, what they're going through,
you deserve what's coming. Yep. Whether it's,
you know, you getting trashed
on that post or they find your business out. Yep. And start reviewing and Yes. Yeah. Good luck with the with the shit storm. You caused it. Exactly. You caused the shit storm. Now you have to, you know, you have to live it live with it. Reap what you sow. That's it. So don't don't just be nice to people. Even if they're online and you don't like them.
Okay. Move on. Yeah. Move on. Unfollow, block, hide, whatever. I don't understand the point of having to write a comment on somebody's page when you're not saying anything that's first off, it wasn't even useful.
Lindz:Right. If you're trying to have a discussion, which is what we try to do on this podcast. Right? Right. We try to have discussions and build up
conversations,
talk about each other's opinions,
and we don't have to fucking agree. No. Nobody cares. No. But that's the thing. He wasn't even
Russ:it's not like he was reviewing what my friend is doing on social media. Right. He was There was no
Lindz:conversation
Russ:happening. No. It was your fat, get a Peloton. Right. It was a dude being a fucking asshole. Yep.
Don't do that.
Lindz:Be a good person. Love you. Be kind. Love you.
Russ:Bye.
And
Before we go before we go, I did say love you twice.
You're cute. I know. I love you.
I updated some stuff on the merch shop.
Couple of new products.
Lindz:Love it. Some stickers.
Russ:Some
nice new fonts that I added to the some of the merch. Let us know what you think about them. Yeah. Let us know because I really want to know. Uh-huh. One Preparing mine. One part of this podcast doesn't like it. It's not us.
The other part loves it. It's us.
Lindz:I'm telling you, we need to do polls.
Russ:Yeah. I know. But what what I'm scared to post online because that clout chasing asshole. Oh, shut up. I'm just kidding. Love you.
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