Hop aboard the hot mess express as we take a wild ride through the chaotic terrain of today's biggest issues in another thrilling episode of Unholy Union. We're leaving no stone unturned and no topic untouched. We'll grapple with the complexities of...
Hop aboard the hot mess express as we take a wild ride through the chaotic terrain of today's biggest issues in another thrilling episode of Unholy Union. We're leaving no stone unturned and no topic untouched. We'll grapple with the complexities of the US border policy, wrestle with the implications of Chinese land ownership in the US, and even dare to dive headfirst into the murky depths of AI ethics. From Ramaswamy's under-16s social media ban to the national security implications of fentanyl influx in Philadelphia, we're pulling back the curtain on it all. Tune in for a tantalizing mix of sharp insights, spirited debates, and just a sprinkle of outrageous marital discourse. Get ready for a hefty dose of reality, served with a side of revelations. It's not your grandma's podcast episode – unless your grandma loves political intrigue, global geopolitics, and artificial intelligence discussions. Buckle up and enjoy the ride!
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Timestamps:
(00:00:25) Discussion about the presidential debate
(00:01:24) Discussion about the issues raised in the debate
(00:35:50) Ownership of content used by AI
(00:36:23) Legal issues with using someone's work for AI training
(00:39:45) Power dynamics in the AI industry
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00:25 - Discussion about the presidential debate
01:24 - Discussion about the issues raised in the debate
35:50 - Ownership of content used by AI
36:23 - Legal issues with using someone's work for AI training
39:45 - Power dynamics in the AI industry
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Lindz:Another
presidential
debate. I don't know why it's a debate. Right? It's not a debate. It's a cat fight.
I don't know what it sounds like. Oh my gosh. They just go go go go go go talk all over each other. It reminded me a lot of the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle show. Oh my god. Or movie where they just you they all talk and you can understand none of them. Uh-huh. It's just over top of each other, loud. One thing that they are doing that I started to notice is mute mics. So you can hear them talking on stage, but it's not being put out to the audience. Yeah. So that's a good idea.
Russ:Shut up. So are they muting the mics for the
TV broadcast,
or is it just for the audience? I think both because it's
Lindz:well, their voices are quiet for us viewers, so I would think that they're being
Russ:shut off in They should shut it off
completely in that yeah. Because it they nothing gets done. It's just
a fucking cat fight. It's a bitch fest. Oh my god. They all like to talk shit about each other and then
insult each other like Nikki Haley's saying, what was it, Vivek?
Yeah. I get dumber. I get dumber every time you talk. I thought I did think that was kinda funny, though. It was funny. She's she's got some she's got some quips to it. I get dumber every time you speak.
Lindz:That's messed up. But it was a lot heavier, it feels like, this time around. Like
Russ:With with what could come through the noise? Yeah. A little bit. The topics were more mature, I guess, you could say. Yeah. And she is in Hailey had another comment. She said,
Lindz:based on all this
budget stuff,
no.
I wanna use that later.
Cut this part out. Okay. So,
yeah, it did seem more mature. There was a lot of Fentanyl talk. Yeah. And
I know what Fentanyl is. I know that it destroys people. There's this almost, what I wanna say, pandemic that's happening in Philadelphia right now. Epidemic, maybe is the right part. Right now that is
Russ:having people on the streets who are either high or dying or dead. Yeah. They're dead in the middle. It's like the dark ages. There were so many bodies in the street that
they didn't know what to do with them. This Philadelphia is now a sanctuary city
Lindz:and is having this issue with Fentanyl. And I guess I didn't realize how large of a scale it is because they were really hitting it in this debate this time that Fentanyl is the largest problem
of our border security. It's not just people anymore. Right. And we always had the bad actors. Right? It was like one M and M out of the bushel or whatever that analogy was. A bushel of M and M's.
But I forget if it was Trump or somebody else who said, you know, if there's one bad actor in the whole group, then you don't wanna let any of them in or forget what the actual comment was.
But to that point, it's now they're not just talking about the influx of people. They're talking about the drug cartels. They're talking about Fentanyl specifically.
Russ:It's unsustainable,
period. Our stuff here is not built to just allow
everyone
free access
Right. To and from. At at what point does having an open border
allow you to be a country?
Mhmm. You're not a country
Lindz:at that point. Yeah. That's not to say you don't wanna let anyone in, but I I will be honest with you. I think because of the issue that we have now, we have to turn it off for a while. I don't disagree with that. I think there needs to be a plan, though, because there are people in the world who may wanna come here. And if they do it legally, great. Yeah. A 100%. I am not saying turn off legal immigration. I'm I'm saying turn off
Russ:the abuse of
the southern and northern borders Right. Of just, oh, you crossed over? Okay. Well, go to this place
and get hooked up with this. Right. It's not right.
It it's unsustainable
for us as a country.
Mhmm. And
it it it's seriously probably it's a national security issue. Right. If they're bring
if I'm not saying there as in
the immigrants because from what one of the debaters said was
most of or no. It was the moderator, I think. Most of the fentanyl that does come through the southern borders, though, is from American citizens. Mhmm.
But those borders being open like that is a national security issue. We just said there's bodies in the street In Philadelphia. In Philly because of fentanyl.
So you're
you're saying
that the ease of coming in and out of this country from our borders
is causing
1,000 upon thousands of people to die. Mhmm.
So that's a national security issue. That that's
completely
Lindz:your if you shut it down, you're protecting American citizens. Right. They also kept drawing ties back to CCP, which in my head, I had to spell it out, China Communist Party, to make sure I was keeping up with the conversation.
But for the CCP, they're we're talking about how China is buying up land and how they're actually part of the source for Fentanyl. Yeah. I heard that they're
Russ:trying to destabilize the US. It's in their best interest to destabilize us to make us less powerful. If we're divided, we fall.
Lindz:But I guess I never really put 2 and 2 together until
I really started understanding
who could buy land.
There are
companies
in the Middle East that can buy American land. Yes.
Russ:The CCP buying land in America. How does that make sense? Yeah. Exactly. Why do you need that? Why? How is that not a national security issue? To have a different country or a business
Buying up, and I'm talking
thousands of acres of land. Like, you're not gonna build,
Lindz:headquarters
on that thousands of acres of land. Well, I don't know.
So It's weird. It's super weird. And What do you plan on doing with that land is my point? And Justin Bizarro said
Russ:it on our episode that
we cannot fish their waters, but they can fish ours. Yep. And it's the same. We can't buy land over in China. Nope. You have to be a citizen. Yeah. You have to be a citizen over there. We can't we do not have the same rights on a global scale
as everybody else. As we're giving to everyone else. Exactly. Yep. And why do they why does a Chinese national or whatever
is it a is that a right term for it? I don't know. Chinese national? Yeah. Like a Chinese citizen that has no intentions of being here and living here or a Chinese company.
Why do they need land here?
And another issue that
they haven't talked about yet, which really does piss me off because this is a big issue for a lot of young people.
I'm not we're not classified as that anymore, unfortunately.
Lindz:But Middle age.
Russ:But
real estate so they're also buying up a lot of houses.
And apartment complexes.
Complexes. So
they can artificially
increase
your Housing market. Rent and your housing market and your mortgages and all that because
they will create the
scarcity
because they're buying it all up. Right. That's some bullshit. Yep. They should not have this kind of power here. They should not have this ability
Lindz:here. Saying. Why
Russ:can
some person that lives in China has no intention of coming here and living in a house?
Why can they buy up real estate in the in the neighborhood
and
then
jack prices up because they are
Lindz:it's a conflict. Yep. A 100%. It's price fixing, essentially. Yep. I think the biggest problem because I think you could have an argument where people are like, well, they're just investing their money. And Don't invest in here. I think the point is,
if we can't do it with you, why can you do it with us? Exactly. Why are we turning away? No. We don't need that.
Russ:No. I don't and
they are also
strong arming our American companies too. I believe
if you are to,
say, Tesla, for example,
they went to China, but I believe because they went to China, they have to give up a lot of control
of their products
in China. Yeah. Because the Chinese government But we don't do that here. We don't say, well, you gotta give us your,
you know, we get to duplicate your product. No. It's fucked up. Yep. It's super messed up. China is a big ass problem, and people don't like to talk about it for some reason.
And Well, because you can't solve it. Yeah. We're talking about the amoxicillin thing. Mhmm. That is insanity
that we buy
a 100% of our amoxicillin
from China. Right. We have Why? So what you're telling me is the most common antibiotic
is completely sourced from them. What if tomorrow they say, alright, we're not sending you anymore?
Lindz:Or they send us bad batches or they, like, you know Or another COVID thing happens except it's bacterial
Russ:and
They hold it hostage. That it was released from a lab in Wuhan or whatever. Oh, no. No. Don't get me started.
But we'll just say that. Say it's a bacterial one that can actually be
fixed with antibiotics. We're not giving him any any ideas here. Well, and they turn it off. And they say, alright. We're not shipping you no more. Fuck you. Right. And then what what are we gonna do? We're not prepared for any of this. Exactly. We're not prepared for a
a real, true,
huge pandemic.
Lindz:Globalism
on a
as an idea sounds great. Right? To share resources and everybody does everybody favors. Like, it sounds great. It would if everybody liked each other. Exactly. If we were all just one big
Happy family. Country, like, there was no, like, your country, my country, whatever,
then it would be fine. But that's
that is, like, picturesque, Eden type world. It will never happen. Exactly. Cultures are different. Yes. Everybody has their place
that they are a patriot of and feels like it should rule. A 100%. So at no point can should we be globalist?
Maybe on a small scale, you can try
to do some trades. Like, that's probably important. Trading is fine.
Russ:But to be on the point where you are dependent on someone else, especially someone who doesn't like us Yeah. I know. We don't like them, and they don't like us. It's crazy. They are clearly trying to destabilize this country. TikTok is a prime example. Our feeds on up in the debate too. Well, our feeds on TikTok is complete garbage. Mhmm. But from what I've seen online, the feeds that they play in China are all educational.
They, like,
raise up the Chinese culture. Right. It it's, like, it's almost knowledge building Mhmm. For for them. But for us, it's
some
fat lady twerking.
I'm serious, though. I'm dead serious, like And she's doing her thing. You're not judging. I'm just saying. The point is, though It's different.
Lindz:But you can say that about any social media. So this is my problem with how people are phrasing TikTok. The only the biggest, the largest, the only problem with TikTok is it is non American owned company. Yeah. I don't And I I understand that there is a security aspect to that. But what do they get from you? Okay. Maybe it shouldn't be on the government's phones. Okay. I can concede to that. But
people, like, you get my address, maybe you get my phone number, like, maybe you get, like, some personal information,
but what good does that do them? I I guess it's more I don't Facebook and Twitter have it too. Yeah. They've been breached every other week. What does it matter? Yeah. I don't think it matters as much
Russ:as that as it is
a This one got me hot. I'm sorry. It was a divisive thing because of what they play for us versus what they play for themselves.
Lindz:It's clearly a propaganda thing. But is it though because
if you think about it, their culture, their
government is controlled. Right? They are completely controlled
in what they see, what they ingest, what they their whole lives Correct. Are controlled by the government. Ours are not. How do you know that yeah. But the TikTok is controlled by the Chinese government.
Okay. But we are making
what we want popular. Right?
Russ:That's that's a big assumption you're making.
Lindz:Okay. So if the algorithm is what they say it is and it's based on popularity,
Chinese people don't know to go look for x, y, and z because they are being controlled by their government. The great firewall won't allow them to see it. Exactly. So then Americans with all the freedom that we think we have based on this algorithm,
we can look at whatever we want, but we look at garbage.
Russ:I don't I I truly don't think that it's as simple as that.
I think their algorithms are
swayed more towards trash.
Lindz:During the Republican debate, they brought up TikTok because Vivek is the only one who uses the TikTok platform out of everybody on that stage. And it's smart of him to do that because like it or not, it is a generational thing, and it's popular. But then he goes on to say that
social media, no one under 16 should be allowed to use it.
Does that make him hypocritical?
He's above 16. I agree. But he's talking about the safety of it for children. Yeah. I don't know. So to use a social media platform, does that make him a hypocrite?
Russ:I don't know. He's an adult. I think I would ask more so is if his kids use it that are if they're under 16. Does anybody that he
is is anybody in his circle
under 16 using it?
Then maybe.
I don't understand why the government feels like or why people like him feel the need to
control people.
If you wanna use TikTok,
then I'm a parent. I will either allow my kid to use it or disallow it. Yep. It's not
the US yeah. It's not the US government to say, oh, your kid's under 16. They can't fucking get on TikTok
because there's a lot of repercussions to that. How do they track that? Mhmm. What are they gonna have to put something on your devices that
Lindz:confirms or Would TikTok do that?
Russ:Probably.
But are they gonna have some kind of biometric system that links your fingerprint to your social
so they know how old you are?
Lindz:No. It would just be a checkbox. I certify them as a team. But other social media platforms had that. I'm trying to think if I think it was Myspace
back in the day said, are you 13? And you had to check it. 1 of them did that. But it wouldn't
Russ:prevent you from creating.
That isn't gonna prevent an under 16 year old from creating an account. Oh, I understand that. But that's what I'm saying. To enforce something like this, it has to be invasive. It wouldn't be enforceable is what you're saying. It could be, but it'd have to be very invasive. Mhmm. And that that that's a no go to me. I don't see why him using TikTok
Lindz:is
Russ:a bad thing. I I personally don't. I don't either. I don't like his But based on what he said Yeah. Like, does that make him a hypocrite? I don't know. It's kinda weird. He says under 16, but then in that same breath, he said we need to be speaking to the younger generation. I'm like, but you're just talking about banning the younger generation from fucking Right. How do you get to them then?
Exactly. I don't understand. How do you do that if you're gonna ban under 16 year olds? Because
these 16 year olds,
aren't they gonna be well, they'll be pretty damn close to voting. In 2 years. Yeah. I guess it's next year, isn't it? 2024 is the presidential.
Yeah. But anyways yeah.
2 years away from voting age. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense that he says
no one under 16 should use it, and I don't think it's just TikTok. I think it was social media in general for him.
Oh, I thought it was just specific to TikTok, but I could've maybe he I don't know. Maybe social. Yeah. I could be wrong too. They were all talking over each other. Yeah. They were jumping down his throat on that one. They were ganging up on him. That's because he's Popular? Yeah. I think so. He's a little bit of
a more polished Trump, I think. He's try I think that's what he's trying to be. He is a He's a businessman,
an outsider. He uses all the same terms that Trump used. Mhmm. And,
yeah, he's He's very an outsider. Yeah. An entrepreneur.
Lindz:You can tell he's from the business world.
He's not
Russ:very political like them, meaning, like, the games they play. Yeah. I can't fucking see see, speaking of games is,
Mike Pence again.
Lindz:I was listening to one of those commentary videos of the
debate, and the commenter said,
commentator said,
Russ:Mike Pence is where Charisma goes to die. I laughed so hard. It is it's so weird. He's such a strange person. If lizard people were real, he's one of them.
A 100%.
Because
I don't know. It's something about
the way he carries himself. He's very fake. Yeah. He's very it's super fraudulent,
and he
on the mic. Always takes a deep breath. I'm like, dude,
stop.
Back up. Yeah. Back up or something or take that deep breath or you're getting ready to get called on.
Lindz:Well and then Chris Christie, like, I'm not a fan. And I'm just not. But I don't like him either. One of the things he said that actually
started clicking things together for me a little bit, He said that regarding Russia and the Ukrainian war,
what Putin is doing right now is getting the band back together,
And it
hit home like,
oh,
he's saying Chris Christie is saying that
the next world war is being staged right now
because you have Russia, you have China, you have, North Korea, and now you have Iran.
Like, those 4
are gearing up to be
the next. Right? The next I don't I don't think so. What did they call them? The axis or something like that.
Russ:The Russians were on our side in World War 2. I know. But China was yeah. China was too because they were getting destroyed by Japan.
Lindz:Right. And I think what he was really alluding to because they were talking about the Soviet Union and Putin said the saddest day in history of the United 1991
or whatever was the when the Soviet Union fell. Right. So
I think he meant that he's trying to build back the Soviet Union. But the way he said it, I was like, if you think about it,
there are 4 countries that are banding together right now. And what does that sound like historically?
Russ:It doesn't sound like anything. It sounds like countries that are looking out for their best interests.
We are banned together with NATO and all that shit.
Lindz:But I don't know. If you think of it on this large scale,
like, you have these 4 countries coming together, and they're talking about
if Ukraine falls, the next is Taiwan. And if Taiwan falls, next is, you know They're fearmongering
you. I understand, but
Russ:it's clicking pieces together. Yeah. But our so we're allowed to have allies in Taiwan
or Ukraine, but they can't have allies with each other? It doesn't make fucking
Lindz:sense. They Of course. Of course. Doing these invasions
is the thing. Like, they're actually progressing on a plan.
Russ:Do you think if
Mexico turned into a Chinese ally, like buddy buddy loved each other,
do you think we wouldn't invade?
Lindz:I don't think we would invade. No. I think you do. I think it would be no. I don't. In if Chinese if the Chinese
Russ:brought
troops
into
Mexico,
Lindz:you don't think we would fight? They actually said during the debate that the Chinese are actually
funding
South American countries and building their armies. Right. So
to that point, do I think we would invade?
No. I think what would happen is a standoff, like Cuban missile crisis.
Russ:Let's see what happens. You don't think we would go down there if they started moving missiles and things like that into Mexico right there? End in the Cuban missile crisis?
They moved missiles to Cuba. I know. But the point I'm trying to make here is that's what we were trying to do to Ukraine. We're trying to move a bunch of militarized
stuff in there. So you're saying we started it. I'm just no. I'm saying you have to look at it in their perspective too.
Why would you want your enemy
to be your neighbor
if you can help it?
Why would you want NATO
Why would you want Ukraine to become NATO when they're your neighbor?
Because then
they're gonna start posting we are gonna start posting up
ballistic missiles,
anti air stuff. We're and then we're right fucking there. We could launch an invasion on them. Of course, they're gonna look out for their best interests. Even if they take Ukraine,
then they're right next to Poland. Poland is in NATO, I believe. But they're just trying to create a buffer. I get it. I'm not saying what they're doing is right. War is fucking bullshit.
But what I'm saying is
we don't have to blow all of our American money
Lindz:on this thing that's going on over there when we have a clear crisis going on here. I agree with that, but I think you're missing my point. In all of history, when you look at World War 1 and World War 2, how it's set up. Right?
Every single war that is a large scale like that is set up with countries banning together
and one country making a move.
That is what is happening.
I can understand
that they are the media and they fear monger and all that. But at the same point, like, if you look back in history,
this has been the setup forever. Yeah. But why aren't we considered setting up is what I'm confused about. You mean because NATO tried to move missiles into Ukraine. Exactly.
Russ:I can see what you're saying. I'm not saying that they specifically tried, but I'm 99%
sure that NATO is was trying to absorb Ukraine and and welcome them into NATO,
which And I get it. I believe right obviously, Russia would not like that. I understand.
Lindz:But to not see the pattern, like, I didn't see it until Chris Christie said that.
And I'm starting to see the pattern of what every world war has led up to. Think about Germany when it invaded,
Austria.
It was Austria first. They started with Austria first, and then they kept going into Europe. I thought it was Poland. No. I'm pretty sure it was Austria first.
We're gonna fact check this.
Okay. You were right. In World War 2, Germany invaded Poland first. K. Wasn't Hitler Austrian?
Russ:Yeah. I'm pretty sure he was. He was also Jewish.
Lindz:Born, raised Jewish. Don't think he was practicing. Anyways, Germany invades Poland. That's what initiated
it for everyone.
And everybody tried to be like, just let's see what happens.
And then he takes more land, then he takes more, then he invades others. And all of a sudden, he's in France.
So
the idea that
this is setting a stage,
I can see it. I can see the pattern.
Russ:I don't know.
I
the problem with all this stuff is we are always getting involved in shit when we don't have the money to get involved in shit,
and we clearly have an epidemic here I agree. That we should be spending 1,000,000,000 upon 1,000,000,000 of dollars on. I agree, but do you see the pattern? No. I don't because it's just
countries are always going to look after themselves. It's just the way it is. You look after yourself, blah blah blah blah blah. You look after the family. That's what people do. They wanna protect themselves. If
them wanting a buffer between
them and NATO,
then I'm not justifying it. I don't like it, But do you blame them?
Lindz:I don't know that I blame them based on this conversation that we're having right now because of the way NATO was trying to set up Ukraine.
But at the same time,
the pattern is there. I can't ignore it.
I
will be curious to see how everything plays out.
I hope I'm wrong. I just
Russ:with all the wars that we've been involved in our lifetime,
I'm having
Lindz:a Fucking millennials. We've been through so much. It's more and more becoming
Russ:we
might not be the good guys anymore.
We because we can't mind our own business. We would drone strike random places in the Middle East for no fucking reason.
There was an American citizen over there. I'm not saying this dude was a good guy, but they drone
drone struck.
Is that it? Struck is a real word. Yeah. They did that. They did a drone strike. Yeah. On him, killed him without due process
because he was over there. I'm like, that's not really right.
You know what I mean? I don't even think I don't know. I don't know.
I don't think he was
actively fighting us either, like, in that moment that he got hit. So, obviously Well, he may have been on the hit list, though. I know, but he's an American citizen. I don't know how I feel about it
because he's
does due process exist or not?
Lindz:When you're on American soil.
Russ:But you're still a citizen. So if you travel to
the Middle East, you,
and they say,
I don't like her. I don't want her to come back, and they drone strike you. What are you gonna do? What's the international law?
You think I don't know. Do you think we care about that when we just Bop. I don't know. No. No. My issue, though, is we've been
sticking our nose in things,
not doing what's right,
in my opinion, and
it's biting us in the ass. Continuously.
Why do you think the world really doesn't
they're not very fond of us anymore. If we would just mind our own business,
people wouldn't care. Right. To an extent. But now we just gotta stick our nose in everything.
Lindz:Yep. And I think that our
ideas on globalism have
infected
this country to the point where we are most
a lot of people are no longer patriots. They are globalists,
and they want us to be involved.
We are we're the caretakers of the world. No. We're not. They don't want us there. We can't even take care of ourselves. That's the problem.
And one of the things that Haley said, she said that if the Congress can't pass a budget,
then no budget, no pay for Congress. I was like,
Russ:yo. I like that. I'm pretty sure
they're exempt from
Lindz:the furloughs and all that stuff that comes from shutdown. Yeah. They don't they still get paid. We live in an area that's we're in Tampa, so the MacDill Air Force is right next to us. We live in an area where people
work there, and they would not get paid if the government shut down. No. They wouldn't. But it didn't.
But again, this whole idea of
what is going on at home,
like, to me,
this idea of budget is bullshit.
I don't fucking understand
why they make such a big deal out of this other than people aren't gonna get paid, but it's not the right people.
The
Russ:military should always get paid. It's rules for the, but not for me. A 100%.
Lindz:I am livid with all this. Like, they keep saying, it's the clock and it's gonna shut down and then it's like, no. This is bullshit. Yeah. You guys You're creating a crisis for what? Exactly. They're they're probably
Russ:trying to divert our attention from
Lindz:something else. They're spending.
Russ:And the southern border is a big
fucking deal right now. Mhmm. I think last month or this month, it was the
most crossings
ever in 1 month. Something like that. I can't remember. And
I get people wanting to come here for a better life and stuff, but there's a process.
Lindz:We have to follow it or we are no longer a country. With this whole budget thing, the government has averted a shutdown. It's not gonna happen. They passed a spending bill again.
My my problem is
in the article that I read, you could tell it was very left leaning,
that they said the
democrats were able to get it done. The republicans backed down on on all of the spending cuts. And it's like, why did they back down? And in my head, I'm thinking because of the upcoming election. They don't wanna be cast in a bad light. Yeah. So fine. Let the Democrats have this budget spending.
And when the elections come around, hopefully, people will vote Republican.
But at the same time, like, you're not doing your fucking job then.
They're not. None of them are. Right. How do they They're not fighting for us to cut
costs where we are 1,000,000,000,000 upon 1,000,000,000,000 of dollars in debt.
Russ:How does Makes no sense. How does a person
like Nancy Pelosi who makes she makes 6 figures as the
Lindz:Yeah. I think it was, like, 236.
Russ:Yeah. 230
6,000 a year. How does her net worth balloon to a 130,000,000?
Right.
As a public servant for her entire life. Getting that money under the table, baby.
Well, when you're allowed as a congressman
or congresswoman
to
invest in companies like a Tesla
Mhmm. And then you decide, oh, we're gonna pass tax cuts for Teslas. What is that gonna fucking do to a Tesla stock? Mhmm.
It's gonna
explode Tesla stocks. Manipulating the market. Yeah. But it's legal because she's in congress. Yep. That's a bunch of crap. If you and I did that We would be considered manipulating the market. Be insider trading. Yep. And we would go to prison and get fined and all that shit. Yep. We would be in
Lindz:what is the maximum security?
Russ:Man, it'd be white collar. I play pool all day.
Lindz:You're just saying that based on suits. Yes.
Let's talk about the
idea
of the media. I mean, we've said this millions of times now that they are just sensationalists and cannot be trusted. But listen to this headline. I just want you to hear it. I want you to tell me what you thought it was
because I'm I can't decide if I was just hired and read it wrong
or if they're just being stupid. Okay. So it's from the Miami Herald and the headline is,
dwarf like creature
found inside hotel near Burundi
turns out to be new species. What does that sound like to you?
Russ:A midget? A fucking,
a hobbit? That's probably Frodo or something.
Lindz:Okay. So I don't feel stupid.
What? It ended up being
dwarf, and it had, like, little like, a single quotation around them.
The word dwarf and, like, creature,
and it ended up being
a newt.
Russ:How the fuck does that
how does that even relate?
Dwarf, I'm telling you, I'm feeling like a dwarf is like a humanoid type thing.
Lindz:But, no, they use that phrase, I guess, for a specific type
of newts,
Russ:little lizards. Well, I need to stop confusing people. Like, what the fuck?
Lindz:So newts identify as humans? I don't know. But you read headlines like that, and that's
not a great example. I'm sure. But it was just one that stuck out, and I'm reading it. I'm like, am I an idiot? No. Because I I would have thought maybe it was like a small monkey or something.
Right. You would think that it was something humanoid or in From Frodo Baggage. A homo sapien not sapien, homo genius or whatever it's called. Help.
We're getting real technical here. Okay. So I feel better. Thank you.
But, again, the idea of the media is just
bolstering
and
being total hyperbole. It's stupid.
Russ:It's it's divisive.
And I'd like to know who owns most of the media companies. Exactly.
Lindz:Some good news in all of this. Okay.
The writers'
strike is now over. I saw that. Woo hoo.
Russ:3 cheers. TV is gonna be even more trash. Wait for this.
Lindz:Now, we're waiting for the actors strike sag to end. I'll go act.
I'm not part of none of that. They went on strike with the writers. Theirs hasn't ended just yet. I've been watching I've actually just finished watching Stranger Things. I know I'm late to the party,
but they, as in the writers for Stranger Things, says the strike for SAG, the actors, needs to hurry up, or season 5 is going to be all CGI. They were joking,
but they actually put out a tiny little clip of 1 of the actors
as CGI. Yeah. And in my head, I'm
like, this is where we're going. Do it.
This is where we're going.
I showed you that video. Right? The AI clip where It
pulled the description of a character and then generated it. Generated an image of what it thought it would look like based on that description. You said a book. Accurate. It was better than the actors, in my opinion. From the movie. Right? Yeah. Yeah.
So
I don't think
Russ:he's entirely joking. Somebody should do the I know
I think somebody should do the Twilight movies.
Lindz:I actually had that thought. It was a shower thought this morning. Because
Russ:I think a lot of people said that the Twilight movies characters were awful. Yeah. Aw. They were so wrong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The actors were supposed to
look one way,
look more like what the books describe, but they it was way off. Right. Kristen Stewart was not a mouth open the whole fucking time. I can't. I wanna know how many bugs she ate during filming
that that movie.
Lindz:I can't.
But to that point so
AI,
obviously, we know is becoming more and more powerful. Like, I think that may be something that happens. If they can't cast someone
the way they want, maybe they become just the voice actor
and they create an AI
Russ:image. You've got AI that can do voices and stuff now. Oh, god. Supposedly, Spotify,
they for podcasts, they're doing AI generated transcripts,
but they're also testing
a feature that allows your podcast
to be translated
with your voice in another language.
So this podcast could be translated into Spanish, and it could still sound like us.
Lindz:Weird.
Russ:I don't like that.
Lindz:I don't know how I feel about that.
But, again,
the idea that AI can take your voice and use it. And generate it. And For anything.
Russ:Oh, god. It's weird.
And that's the other thing too is
since they're gonna use your content
to generate
this stuff,
don't they owe you money?
Lindz:I don't know.
Russ:I guess you would still be on the Spotify platform. So no matter who use it or who listens to your voice in whatever language, it's still your Yeah. Podcast. No. I'm not just talking about that. I'm talking about how they're building these large language models. I think George r r Martin is suing OpenAI for using his work.
Interesting. Which I think is valid
because if you're training your product on with my product,
you need to compensate me. That's just the way it is. I don't disagree with that. But,
I mean Him and a group of other authors. I can't remember all the names, but it was big name people. It wasn't like schmucks. It was it was like, golly.
Lindz:But if you think about it, AI is connected to the Internet, so it can get anything. Right? I know. But how
Russ:if I wrote a book,
you can't profit off of my book.
And that's what they're that's I think that's their stance.
You developed your product with my product.
Lindz:To an extent though. Right? Because you're putting your product out there and if it consumes it For purchase.
Right. And if it consumes it
and
then uses it as its,
I wanna say, foundation or in its code,
Russ:I don't know how I feel about that. No. I I think that it's a valid way to sue somebody.
What if somebody takes our podcast right now
and they
sell it? I guess so. And then they make millions of
I mean, OpenAI is worth 1,000,000,000, but they make 1,000,000,000 off of our podcast. Obviously, it's a terrible example because we are schmucks.
Lindz:But No. But I get what you're saying. But to me, think of,
I don't know, like a free image thing. Right? So AI is connected to everything
everywhere.
They just opened it up so it's not just up until a certain point. Right?
So the it's connected to everything everywhere. If it could find an image
good job. It's a really good movie. But the if it could find an image, let's
say of a specific actor that's out there
and
they use it
in AI,
It's connected to the Internet. It's not
there's no copyright infringement on that. There's no That's not true. I don't know. I'm struggling with this because You can't. An NFL is the Internet.
Russ:An NFL broadcast.
Well, if You're not allowed to distribute it.
Lindz:If
AI is the Internet.
Russ:It's not the whole Internet. Steal
Lindz:from the Internet.
You know what I mean? Like, I'm struggling with that thought. No. I I if I make something
Russ:and somebody then
uses my exact
help, my exact product
to then make billions,
Lindz:I want that piece. Okay. So George RR Martin, he made a product. He's selling it. Okay. I get that. That makes sense.
But I guess I'm thinking Internet of things. Right? So
if
AI is the Internet,
is it wrong for it to use what's out there?
Russ:I think it's I don't necessarily
I think
it's wrong
If it's monetized. For open a yeah. And it is. Like, you can pay $20 a month for a chat GPD 4.
But I think it's
a problem if you don't get permission to use somebody's product
before you train your AI model on that product.
Lindz:Okay.
Maybe. I'm trying to get there, but
how big this is is breaking my brain. Like, AI breaks my brain. Yeah. It's I don't get it. It's nuts.
But you also mentioned that
an AI,
CEO
Russ:is gaining so much power and people are That's Sam Altman. Right. Altman Altman, whatever. Yeah. People are like, oh my god. Can't believe he's so powerful. I think it was a Forbes article. It said Sam Altman can't believe how powerful he's he has become. I'm like,
he's a
Lindz:he fucking sits on the toilet like everybody else. He ain't powerful. As long as he has the kill switch to the AI, maybe he's powerful. But
Russ:unplug
the AI.
Lindz:I think they would have done that in Terminator if they could.
Russ:I don't know. I just I hate the idolization of people.
I agree. It's makes me it really does make me cringe, and it makes me very sick to my stomach because it is
he's not powerful. Just because he
is the CEO of OpenAI,
you think he's powerful?
Right. Okay.
Lindz:But, again, as if he has
the kill switch, maybe that's what they're talking about. I don't know. You don't think there's competitors out there
Russ:that have a kill switch to something different or what? I don't know. It's dumb. Whatever.
To end the podcast on a more positive note, let's talk about something stupid as shit,
waste of time,
and money if you're if you want to spend money on it, but it's a new mobile game
called Monster Hunter now. It's by the same devs of Pokemon Go.
Time sync. It is so fun, though.
Oh my goodness. So is it walk around? Like Yeah. It's it's an alternate reality game where,
essentially, there's an overlay Google Maps, but then there's
monsters,
like, giant ass monsters on the map that you fight.
I don't know why it to me, it's better than Pokemon GO
because it's
less
about the collecting aspect.
Lindz:Mhmm.
Russ:And I guess you feel less like you have to turn it on if you go anywhere
because you're gonna find monsters everywhere. And the other cool thing
is they actually show where the monsters are on the map, so you can walk to it. I remember Okay. You remember Pokemon GO? They just randomly pop up. Yeah. That sucked. I hated that. But this is cool because
another feature is the
ecosystem you're in changes over time.
So you could have a desert, which certain monsters spawn in the desert,
and then you could have the swamp.
Lindz:But is there a collection
Russ:character more powerful,
you kill the monsters and then you collect their parts to make new armor.
Sexy. So, like, scales, you make new armor out of the
certain monster scales, and then you progress that way. But it's just I don't know. It feels less like, oh, I gotta turn this on because there might be a different Pokemon.
I don't know. It I like it, and it's more
I don't know. It's more
interactive to me, like gym battles in Pokemon.
You smash the screen and that's it. This one, you actually have to time your attacks so you don't get hit by them because if you get hit by them, you get jacked up.
I like it.
I downloaded it on your phone, and you still haven't opened it. No. I have not. I just I don't have time. Okay? You do. I don't. You sit there and read the on the Kindle that I bought you.
Yeah. I don't know. I I like it a lot. I have totally shelved Pokemon Go for this. And since we said that I was gonna read again, I have read
Lindz:2 books. I'm on the 3rd now. Yeah.
Russ:And how do you like that Kindle?
It's the Kindle
paperwhite? Yeah. The new one. It's nice.
Is it better on your eyes than a cell phone? It does have, night light and it is backlit. But it's yellow.
So it doesn't it doesn't have that blue light in it like a cell phone that's Well, you can turn nightlight on your cell phone too. I know, but it's different, isn't it? No.
So why what's the purpose?
Lindz:I guess it more
gives the environment of a book in a way, like the paper white No. I think it's better for your eyes. There's something about it. There's no blue light at all, I think. But you can turn night light on your computer. You could turn it on your Yeah. But that's
Russ:still glaring. I don't know. It's I think the lights are aren't
blaring into your eyes either. It comes from around the screen and into the screen.
I think. You're just so smart. I am not. I will not play monster hunter. You're going to. Will not. Yeah. You're gonna be lucky. Breeding. No. Love you. Bye. Thanks for listening to the Unholy Union podcast. For more Unholy Union content, check out our social media at Unholy Union
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