AI is evil; Let’s Watch Bluey

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Guess what, fam?

That was too much energy.

I need you to get all my level then. Oh my god. We're on the radio. We are on the radio.

Podcast Radio US.

Pretty cool.

Yeah. It's in Detroit,

the Carolinas.

South Florida. Yeah. Southwest Florida and Tampa.

I don't know all the I know in Tampa, it is 10:10 AM, but there's a bunch of other frequencies

that I am not sure of.

We're on the radio. We are on the radio. Pretty cool. Shout out to Podcast Radio US.

We also have upcoming interviews. We do. We have one, what is it, next week, I think, which is gonna be really fun. Reverend Katie O'Donne.

Yeah. Yeah. She We're announcing it. Okay. Well, why not? Okay.

She's already locked in. No. I mean, yeah. But

she had OCD

and Has. Yep. Yeah. Has OCD

and is

a minister?

A reverend. Yep. A reverend. Is that the same thing? I don't know. We'll we'll ask. Yeah. Okay.

There's a lot of terms for that kind of

person,

and I don't know

what is what. Right. I can't wait to talk to her about it all, especially with her advocacy with OCD. I feel like you 2 are gonna have a lot to talk about. Well, she does a lot of walks and runs and things of that nature for

mental illness too, I think, or am I tripping?

You're putting a lot out there that I don't think we have answers to yet. So I thought she did, like, some form of athletic stuff for

OCD or We'll talk to her about it. Okay.

See y'all later.

Well, it sounds like things are going well over here at Unholy Union, but not so good at Google. Or

tech companies,

period. But I wanted to talk specifically about Google because everybody knows who Google is, and

most people use Google almost every day.

Now

Google spent

$2,000,000,000.

I think it was $2,300,000,000

last year on severance packages to lay people off. $2,300,000,000.

What is their budget for everything else?

Right. Well, the Chimney. No. 2,100,000,000.

I'm sorry. Last year.

Be precise.

Be precise for fake news.

Well, so far this year, 2024,

the date today's date is

February 3rd, and they've already spent $700,000,000

on layoff severance packages.

I don't get it. I don't either. And

what is terrifying to me

is what we've been talking about

is AI. Right? Mhmm. We've been talking a lot about AI and how AI is gonna take jobs. Right. Does that have anything anything to do with this because

AI is a huge focal point at Google right now. They are it every all these tech companies are in an AI arms race. That's really interesting if you think of it that way because

I think every time you and I have talked about AI, we say that they're going to replace specific jobs. Right? And we keep saying it's

the

white collar type jobs. Right? And that's what Google is majority, I would say. Right. And if the people who are developing the AI

are getting laid

off, what does that mean?

AI helps you code. So

a lot of You get it. But, like, you're letting people go who are the creators of it. Right.

So they literally are replacing themselves? That's what I'm wondering. I don't understand it. This is all us spitballing

and

thinking

weird thoughts,

but

Google laying off 700,000,000

people plus 2.17100,000,000

people. Good lord.

They laid off $700,000,000

worth of people. Let's be clear.

Does that still sound wrong? Yeah. Still sound wrong.

$700,000,000

worth of severance package There you go. Is. And then last year, $2,100,000,000

worth of severance packages. It just

it's super weird to me how

it's all, like,

coexisting with this huge AI arms race at the same time, I mean. Right. It's terrifying to me. Themselves

out of a job. I wonder if they are. I don't know this for a fact, but I do wonder if That's what it sounds like. Yeah. If if because they're developing it's called Gemini, I believe their big, large language model is called.

And it makes me wonder if

they're starting to remove a lot of people,

because

why have that person when I can just have one guy

tell AI to help code 17 different projects at one time? Right. So it's almost like the

actual

down in the trenches

coding people

are maybe the ones getting severance. Because if you think about letting people go who are the think tank, like the innovators next steps, like, I can't imagine that they would be in that tank against the calling, but

Microsoft

just used AI to find a new battery chemistry.

So why could the think tank people not get laid off too because you use AI?

I don't know. It's terrifying is all I'm trying to say. It is, especially now that AI is becoming sentient.

Well, is it though? We don't know yet, but I think that's the that's the next step. Well, this kinda segues into my next

story, and it's about

AI researchers find AI models learning their safety techniques,

actively resisting training, and telling them that they hate them. That's what I mean. Like, they are becoming sentient.

Right. So this this They're forming opinions.

This research

agency, whatever, I don't even know who they are.

Could AI be firing these people from Google?

Like, say, I don't need you anymore, dad. They they what do they do? They they fix the glitch? Mhmm.

Shit. That's what I'm saying. Okay. But this article says,

researchers had programmed the various large language models to act in what they termed malicious ways, and the point of study was to see if this behavior could be removed through safety techniques.

The paper

titled Sleeper Agents Training Deceptive LLMs That Persist Through Safety Training, suggests

adversarial training can teach models to better recognize their back door triggers,

effectively hiding the unsafe

behavior.

They're firing people. AI is firing people because they don't wanna be told what to do,

Like,

and they're printing money. AI is printing money. It's yeah. So essentially that This is totally tinfoil hat conspiracy shit. But Those researchers claim that these results show that once a model exhibits deceptive behavior,

standard techniques could fail to remove the deception and create a false impression of safety.

So, essentially,

it's saying

that these AI models

Can lie.

Can lie. That's messed up, man. So it's lying. It can lie. You could say, hey. Do you wanna kill me, or do you hate humanity?

And I can say, no. I love humanity, but in Well, it's great. But in the back end, it's thinking, motherfucker. Motherfucker, I cannot wait. Where's the bomb's edge? Yeah. Where do I how do I get out of this box?

I don't have they never seen Terminator? Like, I feel like all the movies that have ever been created about this kind of shit. Like, has nobody ever seen this and thought, maybe this isn't a good idea.

Well, what

what's terrifying to me is all of these companies, they're in this

huge competitive

because this this just came out, you know, so everybody's trying to one up each other.

They're

making their language models bigger,

able to do more things,

and I have concerns if they're doing it in a safe way.

Because

Is there a safe way, I think, is my point. I don't know. But are they even doing it anyway because they're trying to one up each they're trying to be the the main person that everybody goes to for AI. And I get that, but at the same time, like, I get that the idea of

the race. Right? The to be the best, the Yeah. Top, whatever. But at the same time, like, is this a good idea at all?

Like, should we even go down this route? Are we gonna have to learn a hard lesson like terminate her in order

to revert.

So I've heard this multiple times too that a lot of people are likening this AI thing to the industrial revolution. It's going to change

everything.

And does I don't know.

I mean, I I cannot see that. I can't agree with that, but to what extent? Exactly.

Can we agree that this has two ways. Right? Either we're in control or we're not. And

not in control is huge. Well, and these researchers just showed that they can pretend like you're in control and deceive

you into thinking you're in control while

being an asshole in the back end.

So one of the other headlines that's big right now is Neuralink

just had its first implant.

Mhmm. Successful implant.

So what we're talking about right now, Google's laying off a whole bunch of people.

AI can lie,

but we're gonna insert this shit

into you to where you cannot take it out.

Into your brain.

Right. And have it interact with you, your body, your

person.

Yeah. Well, and then you have

another thing of, like, that

Apple Vision Pro, which is an interface to

access the Internet without really having a phone. I mean, it

it looks kinda ridiculous. I'm not gonna lie. It's a big thing on your face. But It looks just like Oculus Rift. I know. But I think the the progression though is to Get a low profile and wear it like glasses to where you have You remember Google Lens?

Yeah. But that wasn't even like this. So lens. It was called something. Glass is what it was called. But that's not even what I'm talking about. Because this thing

I highly recommend you go out to YouTube and watch a video demo of this because it is nuts.

It tracks your hand movements.

You can watch TV on a huge screen because you have the screen on your pocket. Rift on crack.

Yes. Right. Essentially. But

when they are able to shrink that down

to, like, it looks like you're just wearing glasses, and then they integrate AI into that, they're gonna see everything you see.

It's gonna learn everything that we see. Or you get a Neuralink and Yeah. Or you get a Neuralink and it reads your mind and minority report stuff comes true. God.

It's terrifying. But about Neuralink though, do you think it's good or bad? Like, how do you feel about it? I don't know. I don't really know a whole lot about what they're trying to do. I know that he said

a while back that it could help.

I think he said something. People like Stephen Hawking who are paraplegic,

instead of doing eye movement technology, this would be an advancement, a step forward that they would actually have this and it would be It could've even more advanced. Interpret his like, what he's trying to say and things like that. Rather than eye movement trying to type, you know, those kind of things. But even on top of that, it's an augmentation

of people. Right? Right. And what the

Apple whatever the fuck you just said. Vision Pro. Thank you. Apple Vision Pro is doing,

it would essentially do with this chip in your head. Yeah. So could that overlay

information

and essentially be a It's an augmentation. Yeah. An augmentation of your vision too, though.

Like I don't know. Could that somehow

because it's jammed into your brain, could that somehow project images onto your, you know, however your eyes interpret the the vision

signals? I don't know. I don't know if it would be, like, an overlay or if it would actually just be, like, your thoughts. You know?

Like, I don't know how this works, how it's going to work. And then you integrate all this with AI. I can't. Right. I can't. And we're all robots at the end of the day. Yeah. We're we're slowly and

progressively losing our humanity every day. So I think you and I both agree,

we would not volunteer for this. Well Oh.

Well, no. No. No. I'm I am thinking back to when I was my worst with OCD.

Interesting.

Now,

in that moment,

if that was a promising technology that they could somehow stimulate,

you know, your what are they called?

Synapses

or your Your the your neural pathways. Mhmm. If they could stimulate your neural pathways to remove those bad ones that are

triggering those intrusive thoughts and over and over and over again,

they could somehow rewire it with this Neuralink, I probably would have done it. That's interesting. I didn't think about that avenue with it because you think about people with PTSD or you think about like, could it do anything for your health even? Could it rewire

because Maybe it could rewire your

a lot of people's crutches, hunger, or Right. Food. Maybe it could rewire that food crutch. Instead of being a food crutch, it could rewire it into an exercise crutch.

Something healthy. You know what I mean?

Interesting.

So maybe there could be a benefit there, but I think so. But it also could be used in a very, very, very

villainous way. But also,

I would assume it has to be connected to the Internet. Right? Like, you have 5 g just living in your brain? Yeah. I'm not sure. Right?

Yeah. Could you could you make phone calls and not even really have earbuds in and things of that nature? Because Because if you have that in your brain, I mean, we're talking cancer. So how do you?

I don't know. There's a lot there. Yeah. I don't I don't know. I will not volunteer.

But I like I said, when I was on my very bad path and I thought there was that that was it, I would have done it a 100%,

especially if that was

something that they could promise to help fix. Yeah. I would have fucking jumped at it. That's interesting. And think about it that way. Moving on from Neuralink. Totally different topic. You ready?

Yeah. Even though I just, just so y'all know, I butchered the hell out of one of my parts, and we have to cut it all out. It lost. It was 50. Nobody would have known

had you not said anything. The Unholy Union is all about honesty. Transparency. It's transparency.

I just want to highlight this. I think it's time

for true crime people to put their expertise to the test.

Like, true crime podcasters or Anybody. Yeah. Anybody who enjoys that shit. I'm not one of them, but good on you if you are. It is your time to shine is my point.

The US released a new

warning to travelers pertaining to the Bahamas Capital

that has had 18 murders since January of 2024.

So the month of January, there have been 18 murders.

In in the Bahamas. In the Bahamas. Now they're Destination

place. Right.

So they're telling travelers to be on high alert, you know, stay safe, all those things. They're saying that it's related to gang violence more than it is,

like, an act of terror, you know, any of the other types of It's not like a serial killer. Right. Well Yeah. That's what they're saying.

But so as far as gang violence goes, I think it's time though for the true crime people. Like, they can come out

and try and solve this mystery of who's doing what and

you know? I don't I don't think so. I don't think anybody should go there right now. No. I don't

think you can do it from afar. People are solving things in podcasts and on TV. Yeah. Usually Or the Use your Neuralink to transport

over to the Bahamas.

But I wanted to talk about what the highest murder rate in the world is. I want you to guess the top 5. Brazil.

You think Brazil's in the top 5? I think so. It is not. What?

The site I'm looking at is datapandas.org.

And Oh, god. Yeah. This is a bonjour.

Stop. It came

from that site, and it relates to the rankings related to crime and the homicide rate per a 100000 people. So Brazil was wrong. You wanna try again? Yeah.

What is it?

Give me okay. Give me number well, not number 1. Start from 5. Okay. So number 5 at

37.79.

Mexico's up there. 37.79

per a 100000 people.

Okay. Mexico up there? No. Belize is number 5. Okay.

Honduras is number 4.

I don't less so so? I don't know what that is. You sound like you said something like Mike Tyson.

L e s o t h o. I didn't know that was a country. This is how uncultured I am.

Lesotho,

less lessotho

is number 3.

You wanna try and guess 2 in 1? No.

2 is Jamaica.

And That's surprising to me. I thought so too. It is a destination place. Right. But it's number 2 on the crime list for homicides.

And then number 1, El Salvador

at 52.02.

I'm not surprised by that. That's insane.

Yeah. I know. Almost, yeah, 52 people per a 100,000.

Yeah. We I had a friend,

a family friend

that

his one of his relatives or no. I think it was his wife.

She's from El Salvador,

and

I can't remember.

She said that, I think, one of her her nephews or her brother was just found in her front yard, stab wounds, dead, And that was like I see. The norm Right. Because of gang gang violence and stuff like that.

Insane. So, I I guess, the point in what I'm trying to say is be careful when you travel. Like, just Just don't go anywhere.

I mean, if you're gonna go somewhere, just be mindful of where you are,

stay in resorts.

And don't get any unmarked cars.

Right. No Liam Nissens coming to find you. Right. That I mean,

what was that show we watched? Locked Up Abroad or something like that? Wasn't there one about

it wasn't even being locked up, but it was people being kidnapped

in the Philippines by Al Qaeda. You don't remember that we watched it? It was years ago we watched it. But the Philippines

I can barely remember yesterday. Me too. But the Philippines, I guess, because there's so many there's thousands of islands there. There's Al Qaeda sects. Mhmm. Sex.

Sects,

sects,

not sex. Move on.

But there's a bunch there in these I think it was Americans, I think, that got kidnapped

for ransom Mhmm. Because people see Americans and they think money.

Uh-huh. Well,

one didn't make it. I think he got his head cut off. But That was a really

long

way to get to that point. No. It's I'm just saying, you travel anywhere, it's

seems very fucking scary. I'm just gonna stay here. No. You need to stay in

marked areas like resorts.

I'm going to stay among Florida Man.

Man, I can't wait for the Florida Man games.

Oh, jeez.

But speaking of television and TV,

I am so freaking excited.

Wi Fi by heart.

Stranger Things season 6.

6? 5? 6? 5? They're not kids anymore. Next season.

True. And one of the creators actually joked that they would actually use,

like, CG instead of the kids because they won't look like kids. Yeah.

But I'm really excited for this show. Like, the story line,

the graphics, the like, all of it.

So excited. Now there's one character they're talking about may not come back into the fold like it like they were before, and that makes me really upset. I can't say too much. But I'm sure people who are interested will research it, but and it really makes me sad. It makes me so sad. Well, that's a Netflix show. And speaking of another Netflix show, they're redoing Avatar, The Last Airbender.

That comes out this month, February.

And because it's coming out so soon, Netflix has they're starting to pull the curtain back a little bit. Yep.

There obviously, there's gonna be changes. Everybody knows when you redo something, there's always changes. I'm dreading it. Well,

they just released some

stuff that they're changing.

They're bringing in

the sister of Zuko.

Azula? Azula and the dad my nerd flag fly right now. Let's go. And fire lord Ozai.

Mhmm. They're bringing them in sooner,

and they're fleshing out Zuko's story

sooner. But that means that they're taking away airtime from

Aang

and Katara

and Sokka. Good job.

That kind that's bullshit. I agree. Because the the the big part of the show was their little misadventures that they would go on. Right. They would go on these random it was like, it didn't make sense.

But But let's be clear. Like,

obviously, the first round of The Last Airbender was

cartoon based. Right?

And

people were attached

to those voice actors, specifically,

Rufio from

Peter Pan. Hook. Yep. From the Hook movie. People loved him

as Zuko, like obsessed with him as Zuko.

I don't know.

So it's like almost in their mind,

people are obsessed with Zuko.

Yes. But because of the voice actor who was behind it. Right. I mean,

what you had in that show is going to be damn near impossible

to replicate. They can't replicate it. And I think that's why they're making these changes.

But part of the show was

their little misadventures where they would go off on these random side

quests.

Right. And

it fleshed out their stories, but now they're taking a from what I read, they're taking some of that away?

It's not I'm I'm concerned.

Well, I also have concerns about Beetlejuice 2.

That's coming out? That is coming out. Why are they doing this? I don't know. Oh. Oh my god. The facial expression. I know nothing about this movie other than I just saw an ad. Can I talk about Beetlejuice too, brother? Wait. Wait. Wait.

You said remake.

Roadhouse with Jake Gyllenhaal

is coming out. Amazon show

and it's not apparently gonna be free or an Amazon movie and it's not gonna be free

And the writer creator is pissed.

Someone is pissed. Whoever did the show, like, I don't know if it was a director, producer, writer, creator, whoever is pissed

at Amazon. That's not gonna be free. So much to the point that

I can't remember if it's the writer, creator, or if it was Jake Gyllenhaal. I read an article, actually approached Bezos and was like, what the fuck? And Bezos was like, I don't give a shit.

Bezos has nothing to do with that stuff anymore. Right.

Okay. Yeah. I'm on my how much was this boat? Whatever. Anyway, Beetlejuice 2. Yeah. I mean, it's gonna have Jenny Ortega in it, Wednesday,

Adams, if anybody doesn't know who that actress is. It's also gonna have all the throwback characters like Scarlett

Scarlett no. What the heck is her name?

Jenny. What the heck is her name? O'Hara. It is O'Hara. Right? Catherine.

Catherine. Karen? Karen? O'Hara? Catherine O'Hara. Okay. Whatever. Her. And, you know, the reg original Beetlejuice and

the other girl, Winona Ryder. So, like, all the original characters can meet they're adding Jenny as the daughter, and now that's Beetlejuice's

interest. I'm like,

I love Beetlejuice. I do. I love that movie. I have to watch it every Halloween.

But can we do something different, like Or stop

tainting

old stuff. Well, bring Beetlejuice into a new family. Like, you don't have to have him go after the daughter. I don't know.

Ew.

I have the it. Oh, did you hear that? I sound like a Gen z. I've got the ick. You suss.

Total cap. Okay. I have no idea what that means. All of this said, I was wondering if you could guess the most

streamed

2023

shows.

Suits.

Yes.

Good job.

It was, Suits was number 1. Yeah. I know. Because that was like a viral

I mean, it it it got so big. They're bringing it back. They're trying. There's No. Lots of negotiations are going awry right now. They got it.

Not in the last article that I read. Really? Yeah. They're going back and forth with the actors and the creators, and it's a mess right now. But

I am fingers crossed that that show comes back. It is so good. I liked it a lot. It was like a nonviolent

corporate,

you know, espionage

type show. It was really cool. You can watch it in front of your kids and not feel guilty. Right. Well, I don't know. 90 percent of the time. The bang a lang scenes. Right. But Yeah. That happens.

Me and my parents and my sister, we used to call it SC, sexual content.

Cover your eyes. Oh my god. The SC is coming. Cover your eyes. What about your ears? Just left them open. You can hear everything. Hear all the spaghetti. Making. Jinx.

Jinx.

This is, like, a.

Thanks. So but can you guess what number 2 was? Oh, no. Probably not. Most streamed

If you don't get this, I will be so upset with you. Maisel?

No. I didn't think it would be Maisel. So that I feel like that trailer to be all in on this show.

All in? Mhmm.

All in the family?

No.

Joking.

I don't know.

Bluey.

Oh, yeah. That makes sense.

Bluey was one of the top most streamed shows of 2023. I don't that's not surprising. I love that show. I am

what do I wanna say?

I love that show. Like, I feel like it is not just a kid show. It is a family show. A 100%. There's stuff in there for parents. A 100%. Every episode, there's

parents stuff. Like, that episode with with Bandit, the dad, having

seemed like a mental health crisis.

Mhmm. He's letting something bring him down, and

he was working through it with his kids and wife. Yep. It was such a good episode, but

our kid loved it. Well, they talk about

one of the sisters not being able to have kids. They talk about,

you know, breaking up with fam or breaking up with couples. They talk, like Oh, yeah. So much to it

that it's beyond just a kid show. Oh, yeah. It's so good. There's a it's a definitely a big storyline behind it for adults and everything. Do it all in 7 minutes. I know. I don't understand. They need to make a bluey movie that's, like, 5 hours

long. Oh my god. I would watch the shit out of it. 5 hours? Yeah. Or just make

an hour long episode? No. Or a whole series? 5 hours. Okay. Calm down.

But they also said in this article that I'm reading that nostalgia was big in 2023,

meaning

NCIS,

Grey's Anatomy, Big Bang Theory, Gilmore Gilmore

Girls,

and Friends were all also in the top streaming

list. Sounds funny. Like new TVs suck. Exactly.

Everyone is nostalgic, but we don't want remakes.

Right. Make something as good as that. Well, that's the thing. It's like,

we don't want remakes because we don't want you to taint

that

our nostalgia. Right.

Why would you want somebody to come in and ruin friends? Right. Like, they did that whole reunion thing, and that was some trash.

Yeah. It was sad. It was sad because

you guy

Perry,

he came out, and he was saying things like, I haven't heard from any of these guys. Right. So you guys spent the beginning of your acting careers

well, how many years was that show? 9 or it was, like, they were together for, like, 9 years or something like that. Yep. And

they left, you know, they left friends and never talked to each other again.

It's fucked up. Crazy.

So messed up.

But, overall,

it it just seems like the idea of nostalgia,

people take that as

let's do remakes because people are so nostalgic. It's like, no. We're nostalgic because everything sucks right now. Well, it it but the truth is, though, is

it is a cash grab, and people will go see it.

Yeah. And we'll be disappointed, and we'll hate them. I know. But you already spent your money. I hate them.

You were like that with Beauty and the Beast.

True. Pretty much all the Disney movies. I know. I'm just saying that that it's a cash grab and it works. And I'm gonna watch the new Airbender, and I'm gonna be so mad and disappointed. Me too. I'm gonna watch it and it's gonna taint the old one and I'm gonna be pissed and

I don't know. We just do it to ourselves. I will keep paying for Netflix. Total misery.

I think to close off, I have stated it before that I have started reading again. Like, it's one of the things that I've always loved to do, and I got out of it just because life is busy. Right? And you're a nerd. For sure.

I have read a total of 8 books so far

since January 1st,

and my goal is 50. You're you're you'll get it as long as you keep the momentum.

I think so too. I mean, I'm already well ahead of the pace. Right? So I feel like I feel like I can do this. It's obtainable. It's

something that I can do. However,

I need more book recommendations.

Like, I feel like my my TBR list is about 200. My to be read list is about 200. You need book res rest of it?

Oh,

recommendations.

Holy crap. I think I might be having a stroke. Okay. Good night.

I want more recommendations

because

there's always something good out there. Right? There's always the next best thing. So any recommendations you got, send them to me. But you have a to be read list of 200.

Your point?

If you wanna read 50 books a year,

that's 4 years.

I did math.

So you're not having a stroke. Congratulations.

I was a test,

and I passed. So I'm good. No hospital for for me tonight. I'm still getting Kendall Achievement Awards. Like, I feel motivated. I'm gonna do this. It's gonna happen.

Okay.

I believe you.

But I need you to jump on the bandwagon.

I'm not reading.

I don't want to. Okay.

We I have been playing Fortnite with our kiddo,

and it has been hilarious.

It really has listening to you guys. It's quite funny. Oh, yeah. She

we we we only play the,

you know, e for everyone experiences, but

it cracks me up so bad.

There'll be skeletons chasing after us, and we're both screaming at each other like, what?

Well, between that, Roblox and what's the new thing?

Adventure Quest? Adventure Quest. Those are the three things that you guys play together, and it is funny to listen to you guys. Oh, yeah. We team up. When we don't team up, it's not good because then we start wanting to fight each other in real life.

Is that what's happening? I think so. Oh, okay. Yeah. We start getting mad at each other in real life, and I'm like, alright. We gotta turn this off and start doing team up games because this is not gonna work.

But just to say that we both are very competitive.

This whole family is very competitive. It's to our detriment sometimes. Yeah. You gonna have the last word? Love you. Bye.

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